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Having a really hard time with Polish cases


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terenia
  Oct 3, 07, 11:48  #1

I generally do really well in my Polish course, but lately I am having a real hard time trying to determine when to use which case. I understand how to change the case endings, however when to use them is becoming a nightmare. I have just started my third Polish course and it is becoming increasingly difficult because I do not understand how to do this. We are writing stories and what not and my cases are all over the place. If anyone can give me an explanation or a thorough reference book I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks :)

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Michal
  Oct 3, 07, 12:00  #2

There are plenty of good books on the market and Colloquial Polish by W Mazur is a very good buy should you not already have a copy.

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kochanie
  Oct 3, 07, 12:12  #3

Michal, this was so polite!! x

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z_darius
  Oct 19, 07, 09:56  #4

The rules of Polish grammar in tabular formats (at least most of them). The rules are explained in both Polish and English.

Good luck:

http://free.of.pl/g/grzegorj/gram/gram00.html

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Marek
Edited by: Marek  Oct 19, 07, 15:58  #5

Hi,

For my two zloty, i.e. euros, worth, cases in any language are not transparent in the beginning to intermediate stages (just try German, for instance, much less Finnish or Hungarian, with respectively 32 such cases, on for size!!!).

Attempt instead to learn them in context. I don't know either your Polish level or your instructor's method, but I dare say, that just drilling cases all class long, is clearly drudgery and NOT the best way to do things. In the long run too, it is mostly likely not the most productive.

Admittedly, memorization/repetition, should be contextual, i.e. showing situations where, for example the instrumental vs. the dative case are used, rather than merely through dry charts or tables. The latter is a supplement rather than a subsitute, for more use-friendly learning.

Marek

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HAL9009
  Oct 22, 07, 19:00  #6

Try these two grammar books, both free downloads. You may find them useful:
Small grammar book
h t t p://polish.slavic.pitt.edu/firstyear/nutshell.pdf
and
big grammar book
h t t p://polish.slavic.pitt.edu/grammar.pdf
The larger book goes through the cases in some detail.

The remainder of the material on the web site is also well worth a look.

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HAL9009
  Oct 22, 07, 19:01  #7

...oop, forgot the website url:
h t t p://polish.slavic.pitt.edu/sitemap.html

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terenia
  Oct 23, 07, 23:19  #8

Thank you all so much for your help and information, I will check it all out and hopefully get a better understanding when to use the cases. I am so excited to finally have some helpful guides. Thank you again!

Terenia

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porta
  Oct 23, 07, 23:43  #9

I understand your problem ,identifying the cases is my biggest problem also. :)

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telefonitika
  Oct 24, 07, 03:18  #10

Quoting: terenia
I am so excited to finally have some helpful guides


its amazing what you can find :) try the videos by janusz

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patryk_sudol
  Dec 6, 07, 14:29  #11

If I use the verb byc, what do I use as the direct object with pronouns?

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z_darius
  Dec 6, 07, 14:42  #12

Quoting: patryk_sudol
If I use the verb byc, what do I use as the direct object with pronouns?

do you mean conjugation?
See this: URL

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