A heaven for old people, dogs and cats... Polish resettlement in 1945

And we and the Czechs were awarded with the present of communism for our gallant efforts! Brits need to take responsibility for their actions and stop pretending history doesn't exists. For Poland WW2 finished in 1989! Communism wasn't invited by us it was imposed on us!

right;)

Ok then brain box,what part of my statement is incorrect?Point anything historicaly wrong in that and you get a cookie. Who were the LWP? answer=Poles.Who were they fighting in 45-47?answer=Poles
Who were the KBW?answer Poles. who were they fighting and killing?answer=other Poles.
BTW its British,not brits .
Real Polish historians dont have a problem admiting that there were plenty of Polish communists around,I ask again why do some modern day Polish kids not get this as well? Why all the pee ing and moaning about Britain anyway,as you say it was the Soviets who were an occupying force in Poland ,not Britain, do any of you seriously think anything could have been done short of sparking off the 3rd world war to remove them? If you do you are suffering serious delusions and more than a touch of persecution syndrome. I think the most vocal ones against Britain etc are probably the ones with shamefull little secrets in their family histories,all the people I know descended from true Polish patriots have a rather more realistic and pragmatic attitude,and believe me I know plenty,both from those families who stayed in Poland and tose who grew up in this country after recieving asylum here from persecution by the Polish Govt in Warsaw at the time.

I was born in the 70s....My Grandparents fought along side Poles and respected them,they had no say in where the Soviet juggernaught decided to stop so call a halt on your imature little attacks on the nation that gave every one of your fighting forces bar the lwp all their kit and equipment,not to mention a home,freindship,families and jobs in this country where as if they had returned home to Poland they would have ended up in Pawiak,a prison run by Poles to keep and kill other Poles.


Yes,thats when you stopped pointing nuclear weopons at us,what a silly comment,the fall of communism in 89 signaled the real end of ww2 for every nation in Europe.



now,if your trying to say Britain imposed communism on you ,ha bloomin har har,that would have been the Soviet russians with the help of Polish communist colaborators. Your real disdain should be reserved for FDR,he was the one that got together with stalin leaving winnie out of the loop entirely,but I suppose with the butt kissing thats going on from certain sections of Polish sociaty to the USA at the minute that is unlikely,lets just blame the one country in Europe that whenever it has been possible has offered a home to Poles,not to mention your democratic govt in exile in London. As I say, I ,and many other "ill educated brits" do actually know their stuff so try to pull the woool over your own eyes if you want but dont bother here or with me.

I can almost count the number of history lessons I had at school on my fingers.
I had to choose Geography instead - that's why I know where Poland is.

lmao, the worst thing is,if we actualy told them how much we were taught about Poland in school.....
ok,here goes; On 1st of september Poland was invaded by nazi germany,on the 3rd Britain declared war on germany..........here endeth the lesson.
(exactly how much of western history were you taught? coz Ive sat with MA graduates through a film,"They died with their boots on" about custers last stand,everyone of them wanted to know what happened at the end and hoped custer and his dashing cavelry would escape the redskins. it works both ways. When you are the country that shaped the modern world through the industrial revolution and the invention of damm near everything (apart from polonium) used to this day,railways,motor cars,telephones etc etc adnauseum you do tend to find your history lessons a little too packed to also fit in a thouragh history of ,at the time I was at school,an enemy country behind the iron curtain.

Brits only? What about Rossevelt who overrode Churchill's misgiving about allowing the Russians free rein? Don't get me wrong, Britain did not support Poland well enough but for you to lay the balme entirely at our door is wrong.

Something like 500K Poles were fighting in the Russian Army under Stalin, thats twice as many as fought for the West, so what were Britain to do? send the Western Poles to fight against the communist Poles? who installed communism in Poland?

It wasn't the British.

I couldnt have and wouldnt even try to put it better :) Good job!

poland needs to get the fuk over it and stop looking for excuses

Nicely put Mr B :)

just tellin it how it is, S :)

I heard that If twins win once again, they will deport all the British.

Now thats not really fair, if we have to put up with your f*ckups you have to put up with ours!

oh bugger...should i start packing then...????

Shut the **** up, we're God's chosen people and can do whatever we want !!!!!!!!!!!!1111111

Bad Dog!

Aye !

never mind aye! behave - actually why should I give a flying f*k im on a plane in 3 hours!!! sun sea sand and clear blue skys await me!

I wanted to be quiet, but I just cant stand this British ignorance.

istahu, RED ARMY occupied Poland comunist wouldnt have a chance to win elections without murdering together with soldiers of RED ARMY thousents of people, just after the war.

Churchil sold Poland for Stalin, Stalin who invided Poland in '39 Stalin who occupied Poland to '41 together with Hitler Stalin who murdered our oficers in Katyń and it was well know fact.

You try to pretend that Churchil could belive for Stalin that he will be ok, but there were well known facts like Katyń or '39. He just pretendet that he belived that Stalin was "ok", he pretended because it was in UK business. The same as now It was easier for Tony Blair to see "true democrat" in Putin eyes, than murderer form Cheuchenia, because it was in your business.

youre a stereotype lukasz

Lukasz

You have learnt your history from the communists.

Yeh just Churchill. At that time Roosevelt was just lying on a beach in Malibu having a cocktail ot two and had nothing to do with the decision on Russian occupation. It was all the Brits fault. Read the official records of the time and then start to argue FFS

Roosevelt was worst, but it is another story

rather than trying to place blame on others lukasz, why not accept the fact that poland was completely incapable of looking after itself or having a say over its own future... it will help you move on

Ok, I can agree with statement that the best for Poland was to accept German proposlal : Germans takes Gdańsk and jews, we take part of Ukraina they take rest, and Poles are equal race, and we would be on winers side for sure ... But we had different values.

Yes I agree we have to move on , and we do it. You can look on negotiations about EU constitution (I dont like the style but all in all I like that we fight for what we want). In my opinion we should be more asertive in contacts with USA (Iraq Afganistan)...

That is all, I just wanted to say that this part of our history ('39-'52) is bitter...

i want the best for poland as much as you do lukasz

Punish them !

No it isn't, it all happened in the same meeting. My father read a book by Stalin's translator about the Yalta conference. They just laughed at Churchill, they thought it ridiculous that Britain could have any influence in the world. When Poland came up US and USSR ignored Churchill's complaints. The US didn't care, the USSR wanted Poland and they got it. Nothing Churchill said mattered.

Ok, there was huge difference between Churchill and Roosevelt. Churchill wanted good (more or less) for Poland and Roosvelt just wanted to bring to light Jalta just after elections to not lost votes of Polish americans.

What is more Churchill wanted to invide Greece instead of Italy so alied armies could be in central Europe ... Stalin and Roosvelt were against ... So Yes I agree Roosvelt was F*****

Roosvelt in Jalta (I agree) helped for Stalin, not for Churchill ...

So Roosvelt was the worst form those 3 leaders. Stalin was our enemy and he did what he wanted, Churchill was trying to help but all in all he didnt (in some cases he could really help) , Roosvelt could help, pretended to be friend but all in all cooperated with Stalin.