A heaven for old people, dogs and cats... Polish resettlement in 1945

Punish all ignorants irrespective of their country of origin

One could, but not would, one should but not could, and one was... well one was Stalin. :) Oh my, this is getting to complicated for me. :)



Actually I did expect that.




I would say too much at times. I still don't get it why was it so important to put the war of the roses in polish curriculum... As for the US history, we are limited to learn only about the revolution war, the civil war and the 20th century period.






That is perfectly understandable.

Oh, and you lot are all partially right and wrong in the WWII issue. But the problem is that both groups, the Poles and the Brits, have the tendency to interpret the history in a biased way, according to your liking. Threes really no hope for you people.

Matyjasz,a historian has no Nation(when wearing the "history hat" ) or he is merely a propagandist,either willing or unknowingly. Lukasz is a fine example of a "patriotic" person with an interest in history,there is a difference.
You are taught the war of the roses in Polish schools?What on earth for? It isnt even on any curriculum over here as far as I know!
On this thread,Ive said my piece as far as the whole "britain sold Poland" guff goes(without wandering off into wierd tangents of iraq and george bush...) historical record in all languages (bar russian) would show the "truth" of whats been stated by various people on here,for those who choose not to believe the recorded facts and would seem to rather take a more "ooh,the world hates us" tac that puts one more in mind of another group of people many origionaly from the same neck of the woods.

You need to face the reality of the historical facts!

i live in the present and look forward to the future

if you want to dwell in the past mate good luck to you

I don't dwell in the past mate! History has always shaped modern day reality and there are some members of the forum that, through their education, can understand the critical moment we have arrived at in Polish history. A moment that will decide what kind of Europe are children will grow up in and what values will prevail.

[b]FACTS OR *********]

After WW2 certain decisions were taken that destroyed the lives of millions of Europeans! This needs to be addressed and before Europe can truely move forward.

looking back over the thread the general concensus seems to be that

a. youre a bit of a twat

b. its people like you who are holding back the development of poland

c. no one actually gives a fuk... except you and a couple of other weirdos

Twenty years from now you will be saying similar things to the people of Iraq or Afghanistan! Forget what happened! Stop living in the past! Victim mentality! etc etc

It doesn't work like that mate! People have to be held responsible for their actions!

yeah... whatever

Let the future shape the present.

Is it too difficult to discuss BubbaWoo!

Let's try a different topic! Do you like Polish icecream?

The past , present and future are all connected.

it doesnt have to be that complicated - dont dwell on it - forgive, forget and move on

poland has had its development arrested for long enough - as osiol says, let the future shape the present and leave the past where it belongs

i have had some very good ice cream in poland

and it always makes me laugh to see a grown man eating his lody like a woman eating a c*ck

Bubba,

I don't live in the past and I am more focused on the future than most. I do, however, understand that certain things need to be addressed in order to bring clarity to the future. Family members of mine were killed fighting with the RAF and others were killed fighting against communists after the world. They believed in democracy and freedom and were willing to died for it.

If that makes me a twat on this forum, I'll accept my role gracefully!

Ha! Pot/Kettle......

johan, i dont see this the way that you do - i dont agree with what you are saying and i dont think you are going to say anything that will make me change my mind - this is why i dont want to get drawn into discussion

saying that, in order to bring clarity to the present perhaps you could explain exactly what 'things' need to be addressed and exactly what you hope to achieve by it

er,lets not,this thread was about Polish resettlement in the UK after WW2,something you have demonstrated absolutly zero knowladge of so.........

Make it up as you go along. It's the future. You can do that.
Unlike history, which more than enough people try to mould to suit their own view of the world.

If you see your glass as half full, you'll be looking forward to your next drink,
rather than moaning about someone who spilt one a long time ago.

This was a topic for you istahtu so as you don't feel left out of the conversation! The other topics seem a little difficult for you and you always end up insulting people.

I don't understand this expression in English!

sorry to but in but i just arrived. However does anyone know of Czecy in WWII before Poland,. I dont I just twiddle my thumbs.
see Układ monachijski

you do realise how stupid you sound dont you? seeing as I am probably the one putting in the most input in this thread (on topic,unlike you)to counter your odd mix of communist propaganda and bleating selfpity.......if you are insulted by the truth there is clearly no hope for you,i suggest you move to mother russia where your type of dogmatic interpretation of history may still hold water......



It is a phrase meaning you have double standards....you accuse people of not understanding history yet clearly you have no understanding of it yourself.
The kettle(black iron) calls the pot(black iron) er, black.

I think your wasting your breath with the above mate?.....I mean why does anyone in Poland....England or anywhere else in Europe...OR even the world really need to know the outcome of a domestic quarrel between to English Kings who lived in the early middle ages????......Your to busy trying to prove to everyone how educated Poles are....and then you end up making a complete fool of yourselves!!

I think that Poland is a throw of conscience (not sure about translation "wyrzut sumienia") for Britain and US, and on the other hand, we have some complex about how we were exploited by the west. That explains Polish attitude to dig into the past, and British/American willing to forget about history.

I think now Poland is making again a sensless favour for USA and UK by it's contribution in Iraq and Afganistan. I agree, that when it's not in line with British/US buisiness, they will say to us f*ck you, like they did in 1939 and 1945. So, instead of licking others a***, we should leave Iraq as soon as possible and start to care about our own buisiness.

In the past Poland tried to establish it's relations with UK/USA by GRATEFULNESS. "If we help them, they will help us when we'' need it". GRATEFULNESS is something people can feel one to another, but nations do not know such a filling!! So now we do same error and it's ridiculous!

Remember, "Britain has no constant frends, it has constant buisiness".

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As fo examples shown above, sadly for British ignorants, Turing wouldn't crack new version of Enigma, if he didn't know results of Rejewski, Rozycki and Zygalski work. Enigma is a best example of British attitude toward Poles, something we call in Polish "a white Negro". We should stop to make anything for free, because they will not even say "thanks", but moreover, will kick our asses. Life is brutal.

as everybody and yesterday debate shows that there are politicians in Poland who think the same