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BubbaWoo
  Oct 13, 07, 06:22  #91

Quoting: ElGamal
I think now Poland is making again a sensless favour for USA and UK by it's contribution in Iraq and Afganistan. I agree, that when it's not in line with British/US buisiness, they will say to us f*ck you, like they did in 1939 and 1945.


so, despite living in the past, poland seems unable to learn lessons from history

oh well

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ElGamal [Guest]
  Oct 13, 07, 06:40  #92

Quoting: Lukasz
as everybody and yesterday debate shows that there are politicians in Poland who think the same


I didn't watch. Who do you mean?

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El Gamal
  Oct 13, 07, 06:44  #93

Quoting: BubbaWoo
so, despite living in the past, poland seems unable to learn lessons from history


You are right, sadly. But, when we look better who put Polish boys in Iraq, we find postcommunist traitors like A.K...

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johan123
  Oct 13, 07, 06:51  #94

Quoting: isthatu
you do realise how stupid you sound dont you? seeing as I am probably the one putting in the most input in this thread (on topic,unlike you)to counter your odd mix of communist propaganda and bleating selfpity.......if you are insulted by the truth there is clearly no hope for you,i suggest you move to mother russia where your type of dogmatic interpretation of history may still hold water......


Quoting: johan123
The other topics seem a little difficult for you and you always end up insulting people.

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johan123
  Oct 13, 07, 07:03  #95

Besides if the price for voicing my own opinion is stupidity in your eyes isthatu. I'll gladly pay it!

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isthatu
  Oct 13, 07, 07:15  #96

little girl or grumpy middle aged woman( i still cant decide which) have you anything to say regarding Polish resettlement in the UK after WW2 or not? If not take your xenophobic distaste of the hand that fed you off somewhere else.

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johan123
Edited by: johan123  Oct 13, 07, 07:18  #97

What's more your reactions are pretty much par for the course! We need to be taught about history by the ever superior, in intellect, Americans or Brits. It doesn't really matter what subject: Economics, Religion, International Relations, Human Rights or anything else for that matter. There is always a judgement of Polish and other cultures/countries, hidden behind a false openess to debate. A false openess that has no real intention or willingness for cultural interaction based on equality. Even if we make the effort to debate in your language, because you rarely have the intellectual capabilities of mastering ours

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johan123
  Oct 13, 07, 07:30  #98

Quoting: isthatu
grumpy middle aged woman

I am actually a grumpy old woman!

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isthatu
  Oct 13, 07, 07:34  #99

well you should know better then. I was right though,you do come across as very as brainwashed by communism and all its doctrines. You really are the definition of what most people cant stand, Arrogent and self pitying in the same breath.

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isthatu
  Oct 13, 07, 07:38  #100

Quoting: johan123
because you rarely have the intellectual capabilities of mastering ours

or we think,what is the point when we speak the language you all need to work anywhere in the world. There really isnt that much call for Polish language skills outside of Poland. And if you are an "old woman" you have obviously had many many years to learn the language of oppertuinity whre as I have only been teaching myself your varient of western slavonic for the past 2 years.

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El Gamal
Edited by: El Gamal  Oct 13, 07, 07:45  #101

To all those Brits saying "you was taught history by communists": do you think, that communists could taught people they were sold to bloody Stalin? For them he was a hero and a father of nations, so it was not like that! People who say, we were sold out to ussr, say something deeply against communist propaganda!!

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johan123
  Oct 13, 07, 07:54  #102

Quoting: isthatu
brainwashed by communism and all its doctrines



I have no objection to discussing and exchanging views. I even have no objection to you insulting me from time to time. I do, however, take the liberty to inform you that I have spent the whole of my life fighting communism and would be most grateful if you could at least refrain from the above comments.

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johan123
Edited by: johan123  Oct 13, 07, 07:59  #103

Quoting: isthatu
have only been teaching myself your varient of western slavonic for the past 2 years.

I am absolutely delighted to see an intellectual mind facing the challenges of learning a slavic language. I am sorry that we can't find a concensus of opinion concerning Poland's place in history. I do, however, respect the fact that you are well read and have an opinion to voice and would be grateful if you could do the same.

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isthatu
  Oct 13, 07, 08:24  #104

Johan, Im pretty sure in a face too face discusion we could both find many things to agree on and I apologise for lowering my standards with petty snipes. It would be nice to think you are capable of the same,your constant insinuations that all British people are ignorent ,uneducated and liars/missled is as insulting to us as calling you communist so lets leave it at that.
all the best.

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isthatu
  Oct 13, 07, 08:30  #105

Quoting: johan123
I am sorry that we can't find a concensus of opinion concerning Poland's place in history.

Im not sure we would disagree on Polands place in history,I think what we may disagree on is the level of blame to be attached to the British people that you would seem to espouse. After all it wasnt the "people" making deals at Yalta et al,it was the politicions. The people of Britain welcomed the Poles with open arms and hearts both in 1940 and again in 1945 after it was clear that many would face prison or execution if they returned to what was then Soviet occupied Poland run by the Polish communists of the so called lublin govt'. In my small town a reletivly high percentage of the population are of Polish origin,Im not myself but a tenth of those I went to school with had names ending in 'ski etc so we are hardly the nation of Pole haters you would seem to think we are.

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johan123
  Oct 13, 07, 08:48  #106

Quoting: isthatu
Johan, Im pretty sure in a face too face discusion we could both find many things to agree on and I apologise for lowering my standards with petty snipes. It would be nice to think you are capable of the same,your constant insinuations that all British people are ignorent ,uneducated and liars/missled is as insulting to us as calling you communist so lets leave it at that.
all the best.


I accept your apology and offer my own apology in return. I fully except what you have written concerning the support for Poles in Britain after WW2. I can only hope that are exchange of opinions will be more fruitful in the future.

Regards

Johan

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