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David_18
  May 11, 08, 18:09  #31

Sounds nice

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Jova
  Jul 1, 08, 15:47  #32

3 days left :D

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Friday 4th July 2008


Main Stage:
19:00 Muchy
21:00 Editors
23:00 The Racounteurs
01:00 Roisin Murphy

Tent:
17:00 L'Stadt
18:30 Mitch & Mitch Big Band
20:00 Muzykoterapia
22:00 The Cribs
00:00 Fischerspooner
02:00 Fujiya & Miyagi

World Stage:
21:00 Natu + Envee
22:30 Devotchka
00:30 DJ Vadim

Young Talents:
16:00 Kleiber
17:00 Kolorofon
18:00 Ziemianie
19:00 BiFF
20:00 Pornohagen

Alterstage:
16:00 Film: "Muzyczna Partyzantka" + "Open'er 2005-2007
18:00 Troitsa
19:30 Film "Life In Loops"
21:30 Hati (drums)
23:00 Film "Free Jimmy"
01:00 Emiter/Franczak

Alterspace (Theatres):
17:00 Teatr Gry i ludzie
17:30 Namiot Cyrkowy
18:00 Teatr Porywacze Ciał
23:00 Fire Angels (fire)
00:00 Mamadoo (fire)

Red Pulse Tent:
21:00 Wroobel
23:00 Madame Tinto
01:00 Tenessee
03:00 Bert + Igor

Beat Stage:
17:00 Chill
20:00 Harper
23:00 Maceo Wyro
02:00 Papa Zura

Cinema City:
22:00 "Królowie nocy"
00:20 "Beowulf"
02:40 "Oko"

Saturday 5th July 2008


Main Stage:
19:00 Erykah Badu
21:00 Interpol
23:00 Jay-Z
01:00 Cool Kids Of Death

Tent:
17:00 Rotofobia
18:30 Loco Star
20:00 Maria Peszek
22:00 CocoRosie
00:00 Sex Pistols
02:00 Everything is made in China

World Stage:
20:30 Karaimski Club
22:30 Gentleman
00:30 Masala Soundsystem

Young Talents:
16:00 Sekend Hend
17:00 Radio Bagdad
18:00 New York Crasnals
20:00 California Stories Uncovered

Alterstage:
16:00 Film "Free Jimmy"
18:00 Alamut (etno jazz)
19:30 Film "Muzyczna Partyzantka" + "Open'er 2005-2007"
21:30 Tymański Jazz Ensemble
23:00 Film "Life In Loops"
01:00 Wolfram (live act)

Alterspace (Theatres):
17:00 Teatr Porywacze Ciał
17:30 Namiot Cyrkowy
18:00 Klan Grus Parada
23:00 Fire Angels (Fire)
00:00 Mamadoo (Fire)

Red Pulse Tent:
21:00 Wookie
23:00 Lexus & Novika
01:00 Glasse
03:00 Sebastian

Beat Stage:
17:00 Ojciec Karol
20:00 Harper
21:30 Envee
23:00 Matman
02:00 Ros & Wiosna

Cinema City:
22:00 "Asterix i Obelix: Misja Kleopatra
00:20 "Labirynt Fauna"
02:40 "Amitywille"

Sunday 6th July 2008

Main Stage:
19:00 Lao Che
21:00 Goldfrapp
23:00 Massive Attack
01:00 The Chemical Brothers

Tent:
17:00 Hatifnats
18:30 Benzyna
20:00 Kobiety
22:00 Oszibarack
00:00 Ścianka

World Stage:
20:30 Vavamuffin
22:00 Martina Topley-Bird
00:30 Żywiołak

Young Talents:
16:00 Setting the Woods on Fire
18:00 Bajzel
19:00 Dav Intergalactic
20:00 Polpo Motel

Alterstage:
16:00 Film "Life In Loops"
18:00 Echo TM
19:30 Film "Free Jimmy"
21:30 RH+ - audiowizualna grupa przyjaciół
23:00 Film "Muzyczna Partyzantka" + "Open'er 2005-2007"
01:00 C.H. District

Alterspace (Theatres):
17:00 Klan Grus Parada
17:30 Namiot Cyrkowy
18:00 Teatr Porywacze Ciał
23:30 Teatr Ósmego Dnia
00:00 Mamadoo (Fire)

Red Pulse Tent:
21:00 Richard Banks
23:00 Dudekk
01:00 Sympatique
03:00 Mike Polarny

Beat Stage:
18:00 V/A Team
23:00 Hungry Hungry Models

Cinema City:
22:00 "Control"
00:20 "Polak potrzebny od zaraz"
02:40 "Metropolis"

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telefonitika
  Jul 1, 08, 16:07  #33

Jova:
16:00 Film "Free Jimmy"


it is a right "animated" film ... haha an elephant that's stoned and that well worth watching
just for the one liners


trailer of it

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0298337/ about the film .... in case you have never heard of it ...

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slumbercat [Guest]
  Jul 3, 08, 10:34  #34

Heineken sucks- sorry to say it, but it's pain in ass, big queues for everything - don't compare ti to glastonbury, reading, roskilde, hultsfred, "illegal festivals" etc etc - this is totally commercial. It all comes down to if you care SO much about famous artists to hear them live... honestly for me, I'd prefer to listen at home and go to non-commercial events...... anyone wants to know where they are i can help:)

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VaFunkoolo
  Jul 3, 08, 10:36  #35

slumbercat:
this is totally commercial.


100% - the festival spirit is sadly missing and everything is heavily branded. It's a commercial venture, nothing more

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Jova
  Jul 3, 08, 13:21  #36

slumbercat:
honestly for me, I'd prefer to listen at home and go to non-commercial events....

Is anyone forcing you to go? :/

VaFunkoolo:
the festival spirit is sadly missing and everything is heavily branded

I really don't mind as long as I can listen to some good music. How do you define the festival spirit? Why is it missing in this particular case?

VaFunkoolo:
It's a commercial venture, nothing more

Nothing more? Haha... what about the music? I thought I was going to see a couple of concerts - from what you've written I infer I'll be taking part in a trade fair ;)

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shopgirl
  Jul 3, 08, 15:09  #37

I haven't ever been to a Heineken festival.....but I LOVE Heineken commercials...does that count? :)


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VaFunkoolo
Edited by: VaFunkoolo  Jul 3, 08, 15:34  #38

Jova:
I really don't mind as long as I can listen to some good music


Yup. As SlumberCat said, if thats all you are looking for then thats what you are getting

Jova:
from what you've written I infer I'll be taking part in a trade fair ;)


Thats actually a really good analogy. I went a couple of summers ago and ok, I heard some ok music but the lasting memory is of Heineken and Marlboro logos everywhere I looked. There was none of the cool, interesting vaugely alternative vibe that I want from a festival.

Jova:
I thought I was going to see a couple of concerts


You are. But a concert is not the same as a festival :)

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Kowalski
Edited by: Kowalski  Jul 7, 08, 15:18  #39

Sex Pistols were good


as for non, less commercial festival.....Woodstock in Kostrzyn
a free entrance festival and the organizers expect 300 000 people
http://en.wosp.org.pl/woodstock/

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Seanus
  Jul 7, 08, 15:23  #40

Woodstock in Kostrzyn, hmm..doesn't sound right

R u sure u ain't talking about Snoopy's friend?

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Kowalski
  Jul 7, 08, 15:29  #41

It doesn't sound right, agree :)

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Seanus
  Jul 7, 08, 15:32  #42

youtube.com/watch?v=kVB_9jTC1IU, Daughter of the Everglades

If this guy was playing, then I'd go. Unfortunately, he popped his clogs a few years back. RIP u Celtic legend

This is a beautiful song, pure soul from Rory

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Kowalski
  Jul 7, 08, 15:42  #43

nice,... like Jimmy Hendrix a bit.
I'd go to see Neil Young....plays tomorrow in Leipzig, Germany. Not far but won't make it anyway, shame on me.

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Seanus
  Jul 7, 08, 15:47  #44

Neil Young is a Sunday morning musician. Great 2 wake up to on a lazy day.

Hendrix was different from Rory, maybe better objectively, but I don't enter such pointless debates. Rory excelled in his domain, he knew his groove.

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VaFunkoolo
  Jul 7, 08, 15:48  #45

Ive heard really good reports about this years festival - much bigger than previous years and less commercial - any truth to it people who went?

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Jova
  Jul 7, 08, 16:56  #46

VaFunkoolo:
much bigger than previous years and less commercial - any truth to it people who went?

I went there last year for the first time and it was approximately as big as this year (well, in terms of people taking part... there were less stages probably, I'm not sure though).
As to the festival's being more or less commercial, I can't really asnwer - I'm never bothered by sponsor's logos being on display. I just focus on music and having fun.

Anyway... I thought I'd share some of my random thoughts here (if anyone's interested ;)).

DAY 1
The best one for me. Three great concerts:
Editors: some great songs (The Racing Rats for example)... the only disadvantage was a completely wasted guy next to me who apparently had difficulty keeping his body straight and kept swaying and almost falling over on me. Then he started smoking grass with his mates haha... Some people never have enough ;)
The Racounteurs: my personal favourite. I managed to get very close to the stage... Even though I got crashed, couldn't breath, felt everyone's elbows all over my body and a crowd of people (both sexes) taking me from behind (if you know what I mean), I enjoyed the concert and I know it wouldn't be so great if I was just standing safely somewhere in the back. Jack White is hot! (even though he seems to have put on weight haha).
Roisin Murphy: Hooray! I managed to get to the very front! 40 minutes of waiting, having nothing to drink and being totally exhausted... But it was worth it. Roising gave a good concert, she seems a very talented artist, her style is exceptional. The male part of the audience were glad to look at her boobs sticking out from under her white top hahaha :D
The only unpleasant thing about that day was going back home. I don't want to get into details here... Suffice to say everything was overcrowded and I was so tired that I woke up at 4:30 p.m. the next day haha.

DAY 2
This time I was smarter and took a car. Well, I thought I was smarter. We left home at 7 and it took us... almost three hours to get to the festival (normally, when the roads are not jammed, it's a matter of 40 minutes or so!). As a result, I missed Interpol's concert (arghhh). So I went to see CocoRosie.
They were playing in a big tent (not that big considering the number of people who wanted to see them). And it was probably the shortest concert of the festival - it lasted about 50 minutes...
I generally didn’t like the line-up for that day, as there were many interesting bands playing at the same time. I saw 10 minutes of Jay-Z’s concert, then went to listen to Gentleman (“Keep your fire burnin’ Polska! / Polska, you sing so sweet!” haha).
But the worst organisational mistake was putting Sex Pistols in a tent – there were crowds of people standing around... I don’t even want to think what was going on inside (I’ve read somewhere that sweat gathered on the ceiling and was dripping on people haha).

DAY 3
A relaxing day for me at last! I wasn’t the driver :D So I had my chance to try some of the festival beer. Or should I say sth that was water disguised as beer haha :D The only ‘side-effect’ I experienced after drinking it was having to use the toilet 3 times more often :D
As to the concerts, they were all good, although not really the kind of music I normally listen to. The Chemical Brothers did a great job with the visual stuff – it was an amazing show, but musically made me yawn.
So, in general, I think it’s worth going to the Open’er Festival... It is getting bigger and bigger every year (today I found out they’d started with about 2 or 3 thousand people attending, now it’s about 50 thousand every day!). The beer is crap though haha :D

I hope I didn’t bore you to death with my account ;)

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VaFunkoolo
  Jul 7, 08, 17:07  #47

Thaks for sharing your experiences with us Jova. It looks like you had a wild time.

Apart from crap beer :)

When I went 3 summers ago the only beer was Heineken and the only cigarettes were Marlboro - can you remember if it was the same why you went

And I also remember having to queue to buy tickets for the beer and having to queue again for the beer. Was that the same?

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Jova
  Jul 7, 08, 17:13  #48

VaFunkoolo:
When I went 3 summers ago the only beer was Heineken and the only cigarettes were Marlboro - can you remember if it was the same why you went

No idea about the cigarettes - I don't smoke.
And yes, the only beer available was Heineken (surprising, isn't it? :P)

VaFunkoolo:
And I also remember having to queue to buy tickets for the beer and having to queue again for the beer. Was that the same?

You didn't have to wait at all to buy beer (I'm sure it was due to the reason I mentioned in my previous post). Some big queues for the food... not everywhere though. On the whole, I don't think you could complain too much.

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VaFunkoolo
  Jul 7, 08, 17:18  #49

Was there much choice of food. I remember there being like a food section over by some hangers but that was about it.

I also remember there only being a few stalls selling stuff on the road leading up to the main stage. Had they expanded it at all last year?

Loads of different food, trader stalls, weird people doing weird things in little eclectic 'scenes' hidden away are all a vital part of going to a festival for me. So is camping.

I know you are from the 3M so didnt need to camp, but did you consider it?

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WooPee
Edited by: WooPee  Jul 8, 08, 08:11  #50

Jova:
But the worst organisational mistake was putting Sex Pistols in a tent – there were crowds of people standing around...

It's because Jay-Z was performing at the same time at Main Stage.

Jova:
(today I found out they’d started with about 2 or 3 thousand people attending, now it’s about 50 thousand every day!)

Depend.. It took people 6 hours to go out of the Stages area every day.. Sounds like much more than 50.000 people.

VaFunkoolo:
Was there much choice of food.

Oh yeah.. There was pizza, lots of Polish food like karkowka, schabowy and grilled kielbasa, special tents for vegetarians, normal stores with candies, chips etc and more..

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Jova
  Jul 8, 08, 14:28  #51

VaFunkoolo:

I also remember there only being a few stalls selling stuff on the road leading up to the main stage. Had they expanded it at all last year?

I can't compare. Last year I focused on the concerts and didn't even take a walk around the area.
But there were quite a lot of different stalls selling different things.

VaFunkoolo:
I know you are from the 3M so didnt need to camp, but did you consider it?

I didn't consider it but, having learned from experience, I'm sure I'll consider it next year ;)

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Krzysztof
Edited by: Krzysztof  Jul 8, 08, 19:39  #52

Jova:
I missed Interpol's concert (arghhh).

Heh, so did someone else see Interpol? Reports, please :)

Off topic
Damn, I feel so old reading this thread. I was in Jarocin in mid 80's (1986 or 1987).

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Switezianka
  Jul 8, 08, 21:26  #53

slumbercat:
Heineken sucks- sorry to say it, but it's pain in ass, big queues for everything - don't compare ti to glastonbury, reading, roskilde, hultsfred, "illegal festivals" etc etc - this is totally commercial. It all comes down to if you care SO much about famous artists to hear them live... honestly for me, I'd prefer to listen at home and go to non-commercial events......


I agree: it sucks. There is no atmosphere at all. When I read that Massive Attack performs there and I have to go to this ****** event again (last year I went to see Bjork) I was really pissed off. When I realized some more artist I find interesting are going to perform there too, I was even more pissed off. Nevertheless, I'm a live-music addict, so I sacrificed myself and went there.

On the first day, little interesting things happened. I heard some two songs by The Editors and went away - maybe I'd enjoy it if I hadn't known Joy Division, Siouxsie and the Banshees or Bauhaus. It looked as if the guys took up some elements that post-punk musicians created in late 70s, early 80s and smoothed it all up so that they're not to challenging to the listener. AFAIC - it's better to listen to Ian Curtis & Co. The best thing that day for me was Devotchka - I loved their atmosphere and performance skills. The singer was brilliant and the instrumentation was much more interesting than all the bands taken together (except CocoRosie): accordion, violin, fingered double-bass, and the coolest of all - sousaphone!
Roisin Murphy's performance was very good and 100% professional but it's just not my cup of tea. Too pop.

On the second day, I saw some Maria Peszek - which I found very good, and then got to the "first row" to see CocoRosie. They were, as I expected, great. The beat-box solo was reeeaaaalllyyyy impressing, the parts sung with an opera voice, too. Unfortunately some idiots are in charge of sound-engineering during this festival in general, so when there were any low-frequency tones in the music, they deafened all the rest of the music.
Then, I waited for Sex Pistols for an hour, leaning on the railing. And it was a really stupid idea. When the concert started, I was being constantly smashed up. But as long as I could cling to the railing, it was bearable. Painful but bearable. Later the movement of the crowd placed me somewhere more in the back and it was a nightmare: I'm very short (158 cm), so I was surrounded by people much taller then me; I was afraid someone would hit me on my head with his elbow or I'd get kicked on my head by someone just floating above me. And, what was the worst - I had nothing to breathe among those tall guys. I felt I was going to faint. After one of the songs I shouted to some guys in front of me to let me get to the front, which they reluctantly did, and I asked a security guy to take me out. He lifted me over the railing I paraded just in front of Johnny Rotten half-dead, and finally, I left the tent. I got myself some water and returned to the back of the tent at "God Save The Queen" to yell "no fuutuure!!!". In the back it was not so bad. I've got no broken ribs and limbs and no serious bruises, which is quite a surprise. So: that is how it was inside the tent :) And, as far as the concert is concerned: it was surprisingly good. Johnny had a great contact with the audience and a lot of self-irony. I expected to see a few granddads making fools of themselves but I saw a descent rock concert instead. Not that I much appreciate such music... - I went there because of Sex Pistols' cultural impact and to had a laugh.

Then, I saw Erykah Badu and I just fell in love with her! She sang all her goddamn difficult parts in a way, that made it seem to be as natural as speech for her. No single false sound, and even she did some mind-blowing quarter tones. Everything was elaborate and sophisticated but performed with a great lightness. Numerous changes of dynamics, rhythm and unexpected syncopation must have been rehearsed a lot - but all the musicians seemed to do it just like that, casually. The only thing that spoiled that concert was the fact, that wherever I went, I smelt weed. As if the music wasn't enough!

On the third day I saw Goldfrapp - quite a descent one - and my main point: Massive Attack. Of course - there was too much bass. In the beginning I was in the front but moved back not to get deaf because of that goddamn bass. But all the rest was great. The selection of the songs was to my taste: mostly those atmospheric, dark ones and a lot from my favourite Mezzanine. And I was really happy to see such a big crowd listening and enjoying such 'difficult' and 'undancable' music. The band's sound was much more rock and guitar-based than in the studio recordings but it's quite OK in live performances.

I was planning to see Chemical Brothers but before it, I went to the World Stage to see what's up at Żywiołak's and I stayed there until the end. Żywiołak was as usual great, I had a lot of jumping and dancing and shouting Leśmian's poems. No electronics can drive me to such an euphoria as a good piece of Pagan folk-something. Then, I returned to the Main Stage but found that electronic music + visualizations is not something for me. I prefer to see musicians playing instruments on stage. I'd rather play Chamical Brothers at home - with a reasonable level of bass. Instead of standing in front of the stage, I went to the 'cinema' to watch Metropolis.

To sum up: there were a few concerts worth seeing and worth standing that stupid festival. During three days even I didn't get to know anyone. Everything was commercial as hell and people seemed to have come not to have some fun but to show off. Hearing people's conversations on the campsite or in the queues made me sick. But it was worth it, anyway. And I think it is really a shame that, having such a budget, the organizer did not hire professional sound-engineers - holy shit: nobody who graduated sound-engineering would let the bass guitar dominate over the vocal! Last year, on Bjork, the bass put the scaffoldings surrounding the stage into resonance and the scaffolding, shaking, made the sounds that were heard through the music. WTF is that supposed to be?

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