Hiring a Polish Worker - Pros and Cons

I do not know why you are getting angry at each other.
Poles see opportunities in England, and English see opportunities in Poland.
In time, wages and prices will reach equilibrium. It will make no difference where in Europe one will live. Job availability will be determined by one's education and skill.

no i was here without any papers but still my paki employer deducted tax and NI from my wages and i used to get 2.5 per hour.is it not unfair competition?they paid 2.5£/hour but the english employers had to pay 4.85/hour.it is still going on but there is unwritten law that the home office official don't check for illigal immigrants in ANY british restaurants.that's why indian/turkish ect restaurants win the competition with english restaurants

as a british law obiding citizen you should have reported it straight away.did you do it?

The replies I am getting back are hillarious...Are you trying to dictate to me to ? Well it wont work..myself and many others are sick of people coming to this country with skills that are no way to the standard of english skills..they get the jobs because they come cheap and without quality..As far as being told to get qualifications to compete with the Poles I am too late to do that now..my working days are over and all my national insurance money that I have contributed to the system hopefully will pay for my retirement and not for hangers on and people bleeding our system...It is the younger english generation i feel sorry for the ones that do have high qualifications and can't get jobs because of people coming into this country cheap labour and poor skills....it will be worse when the romainions get here...was the worse thing we did going into europe..we offer handouts and the rest don't....
As i said before just look how they are living 12 in one house?????

what country are you in?

myself and many others are sick of people coming to this country with skills that are no way to the standard of english skills
OK, Sounds like you're in UK
Who are "they"? The Poles?

As far as being told to get qualifications to compete with the Poles I am too late to do that now
Now if the Poles have no skills in the first sentence, how can you compete with them?

Unless "they" are from another country, adding more to the melting pot. Then it would make sense.

Marilyn,
Poles are family oriented people. 12 people living in one house is not too many.
I know that in Poland, 50 people living in one house is an average. :P

Take a look at the Hmongs from Laos living in America. Besides 50 of them living under one roof, there are 25 rabbits, 15 ducks , 34 cats, 55 kidnapped dogs, 3 snakes, 12 hamsters and a vietnamese pot-bellied pig.
And their happy.

you are contradicting yourself in every sentence.i was trying to tell you that you direct your anger into the wrong direction but it doesn't work and you just keep repeating yourself of what you have heard from others.ok,that's your right to have your opinion but do i care?no i don't give it a shit.have a nice day looking at the house opposite with 12 people living in 2 bed flat and 12 shiny cars parked in 2 parking spaces in front of the house

Iwona a totally agree it is a goverment issue. And i do not blame Polish people in the slightest. I was in a bar last night and one Polish man was sitting alone, i spoke to him and he told me he was lonely etc, i took him into our company and meade him feel very welcome, he had some problems with paperwork etc i helped him and gave him my number if he needed any help. So i am NOT anti-polish. I just like people.

I think you are ok. just little frustrated by situation. maybe solution is for Tories to be voted next election?

I think that you are exaggerating here. Hiring a worker with poor skills just because he is cheap labor doesn't make sense. It can be a suicidal act for the firm. Building up your reputation on a market can take years, and I don't see the point why an English employer would risk to damage it by lowering the quality of his service. I also don't think that this is the case with polish skilled workers. They are not in any way worse than their English counterparts.

You also have to realize that in the end it all comes to what the English citizens will choose to do. Either they will remain joint and several towards their country men (English workers), or they will take the advantage of the more economical opportunity(Polish workers). Which one would you choose?



Welcome to the harsh reality of the capitalism. If you are not competitive you are being made redundant. Sorry.



What’s up with that? Are you being jealous? If it's true (which I truly doubt)do you think that they are enjoying living under this conditions?

There's a thought for you: take eleven friends, move to Poland and live with them in a two bedroom flat! I bet the Poles will be sooo angry!!! That would be the perfect revenge!

Sorry, but I would say that it looks the other way around. An average British worker has a far poorer education as well as work standards than an average Polish worker. Not to mention the fact that an average British worker is far more lazier than an average Polish worker as well as the fact that becaouse of his lack of education and laziness prefers to blame the Polish worker for his lack of success instead of looking at himself in search of the reason for his situation.

quoting Iwona >>>>marilyn, I don't want sound rude but you are quite narrow-minded person.

No you are not rude and you have an opinion like everyone else does...and if you think i am narrow minded you are quite entitled to do so..
Regarding everyone else having a go at me..thats fine..thats your opinions...I still stick with my opinions and wont budge...and all of you that think it is a big joke about the house opposite me be glad you are not looking onto it as i am..the garden and the house is a disgrace they should invest in garden tools and keep the place tidy like we do...and as far as the comment about me voting conservative next time..i have already decided who i will be voting for next time BNP party....keep smiling

just a thought here...how come if you Polish are so well educated and have such great skills that you need to come to England ? If you are soooooo good how come you didnt make a your country so great and had to leave it to come to England????

i just wonder what did you think of before writing in this forum?this is a polish forum and you are lashing out at the poles in the uk.we all know that some of this people are drunks and chavs but you prefer to generalize things even though there weren't any problems with majority of polish guys(unlike the pakis).a lot of this people have degrees and are very inteligent.is it what you are afraid of?did you come to this forum to seek some advice or just to piss a few people off?have your opinion,that's your right but i DO NOT care about it.you would be better of joining the bnp party as then you'd have a lot of friends to speak to.
may peace be with you

you should be given a medal of honour for this.i just wonder were chairs and sofas in pink in this pub?

obviously calling someone an idiot is a good example of civilised conversation .some words are a bit sharp i know but this is the only answer to the people who are so thick, that only something like this may work.do you know how long would that take to reach such a small thing like your should-be -brain-in here using normal means?

Quoting Rafik>>> Ok I get the message..I have made my point ..You made the point >>unlike the Pakis...!!!! I agree with you..but unfortunatley being English we are not allowed to say Pakis else we are took to court for racilism...we have to say Pakistanies..just another point that p...s me off..but i have been there....surely the same rule applies to you now that you are in the uk??? or is it only the English it applies to??
Anyway I have been rude to the Poles but they are not singled out ..it refers to others from europeon countries to...
I won't bother you all again....God Bless

That would be hell on earth - where would I put my shoes??



Hummmm - on the whole British people are not lazy - we have a good education system and therefore there are a lot of well educated English people, granted there are a few bums but you get them in every country - I think a few English people are getting a bit peeved because of the vast amount of people coming to work here, we are only a small Island. I dont mind Polish people working over here as long as they pay their tax and abide by our laws.....Unlike some that come here and threaten and refuse to acknowlege that they are living in a Christian country in Europe.....simple.

I think that England is getting too crowdy , emigration is good but with some boundries.
But again.....it is only government politics that can change.
It makes me feel uncomfortable but I noticed that press( daily mail) have now lots articles about emigration ,polish people here . I know that it is to warn people about Bulgaria and Romania joining UE but i think that it makes unpleasant atmosphere.

About 12 people in one house- I live in quite nice new development in Peterborough and we have our website. I was reading letter from someone quite frightened when he saw 10 young polish men moving to house next to.And ..... he doesn't complain at all they work hard, are quiet he even lent them his tv as they were bored between shifts.
he was only laughing that some of these lads mown lown only in their pants.
But maybe thye feel like in english saying "home is my castle".

I've just discovered this site and have been reading avidly for about 2 hours. Much of it is useful and interesting, but I have to say that some of you behave like children fighting over who has the bigger lollipop!! "mine's bigger than yours"...."no, it's not, mine's bigger than yours"!!!!
The flying insults, barbed comments, jingoistic tripe that is being hammered out between some of you is hysterical.......and ultimately, boring......take a rest and come back when you've cooled off or at least, have something worthwhile to contribute......

i feel " threatened " by the polish workers in my work because they work hard, are on time and i doubt they will ever be off.

unlike the scots who are always taking " sickies" coming in late and taking ages for their break

the scots workers take the " bad look off of me"

poland is seven

one ahead of uk

so yes krysia im 6 hours ahead of you

i maybe six hours older than you lol

Do what Australia does - if you don't like it here, can't accept the rules, laws etc, pay taxes and N.I. Contributions like the rest of the population then DON'T come here. This island ain't for over-crowding - we can't feed you, store enough water for all, provide free gas, electricity, car, house, TV and DVD. Stay where you belong - you might be better off.

free gas? for whom ?

WHY ?? do you come to our country, is it for the free handouts you send back to your families in Poland?? is it for our health system?? Our goverments to soft and is spending the English peoples taxes that they have paid into all their lives..Through the likes of yourselves and others coming here to work at a cheaper pay not because you are more qualified than ourselves but because you are prepared to take less money and bleed our benefit system. You may wonder why you get a bad response from English people its because we have had enough of too many immigrants coming to our small island..but believe me things will change. People now are looking to the far right to votem, they have had enough.

James4u,

Voting won't change the view of business, which is more output for less wages. It's about profit. So, you might be better off arguing your case with your boss. But I'm sure you already know what he is going to say.

There is another side to this. We can stay here where costs are lower and watch as all the business comes to us. I for one don't mind if, for example, car production moves to Poland.

Be careful what you wish.

Sorry to disapoint you wroclaw but the voting does count if push comes to shove..more and more English people are turning to the BNP party and if that happens England will eventually turn round to the good old days..some companies may move to Poland and other countries..thats fine..but others will take the opportunity to get business in England..if that happens then you can stay in your own country and enjoy all your benefits there ..no wonder people are against immigrants in this country with the attitude they have..do you really think that the English are going to take it..NO WAY..there will be an uprising..

James4u,

Anyone who turns to the BNP [in my opinion] is certainly misguided. I think the next government in the UK will be Conservative as they are the only viable opposition. Voters may choose the BNP in [some] local elections but that's about as far as it will go.
I don't think that places like Bradford will vote in the BNP.

I agree with you.