Hiring a Polish Worker - Pros and Cons

Wroclaw I would expect an answer like that...people are misguided if they vote BNP..and yes you are right they won't stand in parliment just yet..it will take time ..but believe me they are building stronger by the day...do you have a right to vote Wroclaw or are you just a visitor to my country??
I don't mind if conservative get in as I agree with most of their policies on immigrants as they seem to have the same views as countries like Australia...
Myself and my family have not worked all our lives and paid high taxes to fund immigrants..
How can you live in this country when so many are against you?? Why don't you go home and make a go of it there ?? or do they not give you the benefits that you drain from England...

Lets start by halting ALL immigration. We simply cannot justify bringing foreign nationals here whilst we have people on jobseekers allowance.

Please dont bore me with the excuse that most brits wont do all the cheap labour or menial dirty work.

The mistake we make here is letting the lazy scroungers assume they have a choice wether they would like to work or not.

You either work and contribute to the system and the britsh way of life, or you do not receive the benifits available whilst you are out of work.

Wont work?......no benifits. Its that simple.
Asylum Seekers, do me a really big favour.

Do not insult my intelligence by assuming i dont uinderstand your motives for coming here. Only a minute percentage of asylum seekers are actually in danger of losing there lives.

The rest are economic migrants(i have already dealt with this) GO HOME
Legitimate asylum seekers, well its harsh but why travel half way around the globe to pick an economy or language or culture your happy with?

If my life or the life of my family was in danger, i would happily go anywhere.

Im inclined to say this, sorry but you aint my problem.
This goverment of ours has compounded all of these problems quite frankly because they just dont know what they are doing in some cases.
In other areas such as immigration, and let me tell you, regardless of Government figures there are huge numbers of POLISH, ROMANIAN AND BULGARIAN immigrants already here working and they have the full backing of our goverment.

DID YOU KNOW THE ESTIMATED COST TO US BEING TIED TO THE EU IS APPROX £75 PER HEAD PER YEAR.......OUR POPULATION IS APPROX SIXTY MILLION.
Do you know why this labour government wants them here?

INFLATION

CAPITALISM

GLOBILISATION

Theres a few reasons, you see if the government keeps the wages down then this helps inflation stay down.

This is an excellent idea at business level, i mean by this , it makes lots of money for the business owners etc.

However this money or these benifits seldom, if ever filter through to the ordinary man and woman on the street.
So you see, immigration is not good for us, its bad for us.


Skill shortages may be the only area i would allow immigration.

It seems harsh but i would only allow economic mogration if the candidate posessed a skill we are in need of.
However this would only be on a rolling temporary basis.

Say for instance we have a shortage of doctors in Newcastle upon tyne, recruit doctors from the eastern bloc or wherever else until such time as we have trained our own doctors to fill these positions.

Its a win, win situation, the doctors come here and earn vastly more than they could have in there own countries, they have the experience of working in another country, and are better equipped wen they return home.

Alternatively they could maybe go on to another area of the country that has a skill shortage.
Education, dont know about you, but im more than happy with the structure of our schools

of course we could always do things different, no system is perfect but its a good mark to aim for.
I would however stop all teaching of religion, this is something that as adults we can make our own minds up about.

In would come subjects like Bricklaying, Plumbing, Electronics and Engineering.

These are subjects and skills we can give to our kids to enable them for the work place, surely they have to be worth more than an A level in Theology?
Out would go Catholic schools, Islamic schools There is no place for religion in education, it creates divides that we do not need.

These madrasas would go for sure, sorry but these kids rocking back and forth remind me of one flew over the cuckoos nest.

I really wonder how healthy this is.
I know there are lots of you who may be very sceptical about this, but i believe this country can be great again.

But we have to take a long hard look at ourselves, it will be difficult, but the longer we leave the more difficult it will become.

that is so funny!!!! have you ever heard an opinion that british health insurance is the worst in the world from the british?
a friend of mine /full insurance in uk/ had to deliver in hall...because of the "traffic" in the hospital....

let me tell you... you don't know what you're talking about

I am Polish and I lived in England for more than a year, with my little son. I was going to settle down there, but then I changed my decision. Not because of English but... Polish 'friends' that I brought with me. They changed my life into hell there.
I am grateful to English people for much help that I received from them, I admire their tolerance. A very friendly nation and I met great people there. If there are some English who dont like the fact that so many Poles came to UK, I understand them in a way.I am pretty sure that Polish nation wouldn't be so tolerant if we had so many English people in Poland....I wish Polish people were half that tolerant and friendly like English are...

I think that most of us have welcomed the hard working and curteous Polish people. There are a few people who resent you being here but mostly they are idiotic and lazy people. On the whole we are tolerant people, maybe less so than a few years ago. I am sorry that things did not work out for you this time but hopefully you may come back some day.

I don't think it is particulary anti Polish feeling or anti East European, i think people are more concerned with numbers that's all Globetrotter. I don't blame anyone coming to the UK to work. I guess the fact that only UK, Ireland and Sweden opened their borders initially led to such a high level of migration..

EXCUSE ME!?!?

Well because 1. We again became a country after the first world war (after that germany austria and russia were occupying us). Then hitler attacked us after 10 years... AND OFCOURSE you who are so great (our allies) REALLY damn came to help us THANKS ALOT.... So the country was totally destroyed.... then came russia with the communist ******** and held us away for a long time.... in 1990 we finally got free... But still lots of old stuff has to be managed... Please dont speak if you dotn know much about the topic

Marilyn, what is the big deal of helping a fellow human in their time of need? The brits need to learn about the rest of the "cultured" world that is kind to others outside their immediate mother, father, child relations. The brits are kinder to their freaking dogs than they are to their fellow human beings including their neigbors and people on the street. Get off our high horse, and don't think that you brits live such a privelaged, haughty life. I have lived in 8 differnent countries in the past 12 years and my experience in the UK was the WORST, mostly due to the people. Nasty, ugly, unfriendly, uncaring, cold specimen of humans. Living in the UK was like HELL on earth. The only people who can appreciate the uk are the Brits and refugees from africa or asia. NOBODY ELSE!

Ah thats good, one less idiot !!

I think at the end of the day it supports capitalism to bring down the wall and flood England with yet more cheap labour. It keeps the British working class in bay by threatening them with 'if you do not want the job I can get 10 poles to do the same job for half the money'. America would not have ended Communism in Europe unles it benefited us in some way. The Poles can work hard but only in doing simple jobs. They tend to overestimate their abilities. We have some bad experiences of their work in house electrics-nearly burnt down the house! They will say 'yes I know how' in order to get the contract but in practice they can not. They would be good in a warehouse where they just sort things but I would not allow one under the bonet of my car!

Why was ii so bad? There are some pretty poor parts to live in admittedly but then that is true of all the countries I have lived and worked in (more than your 8 by a long way). I'm not being defensive, just intigued by the experiences you had that have promoted such a violent dislike for my country

i love the english language... so many beautiful expressions for so many different situations...

... fek off back to your own country seems most apt in this instance...

It would appear that he has already. Probably out on parole

Just addressing "marilyns" comment about tons of people living in one place. Maybe, no certainly it is not an ideal situation for anyone, but I don't think people should be arrogant and put their nose up to other financially less fortunate people's situation. That was the reason why I mentioned my personal view on the English and their very strange attitudes on life and fellow human beings. We finally left the UK last year, and I swear I had to program myself to smile. It was so wonderful to finally be able to move to a place where (strangers) people smile, wish each other goodmorning, small talk and make a plesant day out of it. In the UK it was NON existant. And I am not taking about the poorer parts of the UK. We lived in a very affluent area, and between my spouse and I we probable were in the highest 10 percent earning bracket. It was the culture and the people that was the saddest thing about that country. No, I am not angry in any way or form, coming from California things were very very different in the UK. God bless the people who choose to live there!

Ah, now I understand. Please excuse my (typically) flippant English comments. In the South of England in particular there is little community spirit. It has a reputation for being very reserved and outwardly unfriendly. Cliques are prevalent and outsiders are outsiders. The more affluent the area the worse it can be. It's not unknown for neighbours never to have spoken after years of living next door to each other. Yep it sucks in that respect.

On the other hand I lived in San Jose, CA for a couple of years and I found the friendliness to be a bit too shallow and superficial! Over compensation if you like.

I couldn't wait to leave there but that was just my opinion.

Anyway, all the best to you.

I love the way people come to London and the South East and assume that that is Britain. First off, is it 40 or 60% of Londoners are immigrants.
Second, the rest of the country is far more friendly, go to Yorkshire and its completly different. Mind you the people you will be speaking to will be English, not French, Spanish, Polish or winging Yank. There are more languages spoke in London than are different language newspapers printed daily world wide. Live in a posh area like Chelsea and you neighbours are more likely to be Russian than anything else.

Or go to Paris and assume it is France. or go to NY and assume it is the USA



Da

Thanks, nice chatting with you!

Why is there even a need to compare Poles to other nationalities? We are all the same. People from better developed countries judge Poles so fast but how many of you could speak another language, or even get master degree? It seems to be obvious that if you are an American or British, you are a God...The rest is always less sophisticated! Why? Look at yourself first. You could not last even a day in foreign country. You don't even know your own language well...
" Pole"

Oh well done Sabina,

Yes i am from Britain, the "You are god country" let me see, oh yes i have travelled and lived in quite a few countries.. oh yes and terrible me, i speak more than one language... oh the shame of it..!!! one word springs to mind regarding your post..

Generalizing !!!

"God"

Oh yes Sabina,

I forgot to ask, would you like a shoulder to go with that chip?

Siema Sabina

we Polish workers are hard working however some of us have "sticky fingers"

even boxer Andrew Golota had "sticky fingers" during his cleaning days in Chicago

Speak for yourself Witek, not everybody has sticky fingers.

Who told u that 50 ppl live in Poland in 1 house?????????????????? Im polish and i`ve never seen anything like that! Go to Poland and u will be able to see how it looks like. It doenst differ much from UK.

yes, polish have a reputation of hard workers also in Greece.

to all people being rude on this forum to poles
lets have a look at this "problem" from the other side...how many british based companies have entered poland to squeeze the money from polish people? .... lots..... the best known example is tesco ... the prices of food and other goods are very similar to uk prices, but the costs of running business are much lower and people work there for fraction what employees get in uk. there is a huge profit made and where do you think all the money go? stay in poland? no, back to uk call the tesco management office and ask for statements....you would be really surprised and this money are invested back in uk
thats globalization and principles of EU ...free movement of everything .... and who doesnt like it, time to safe money and leave the earth :-)

have just read all the facts!...and i've just got to say that i am british and work with polish workers!,and there fine with me.we cant begrugde people if they want to work in the uk...people move around the world deal with it!! if the shoe was on the other foot(ie)a britsh worker went to live and work in poland im sure there'd welcome him with open arms(good natured)and the reason there living 12 a house is to save money and i say good luck to um...the majority of polish people come here to work not sponge of the state(and there good workers that pay there taxes).....nuff said!!...cas

In Ireland there is no construction side where Polish builders are not working. Most of the Irish thinks that they are the best workers. Few times it happened that before signing a contract people were asking if my company have Polish workers. That’s true, there is problem with language, but I must say, that not only Poles have problems with it – I work with 15 Brazilians and only 3 of them have good English, where 10 of 25 Poles can speak English very well.

As a British Building worker I have to say that most of the polish workers that I have come across are honest and hardworking. I don't think that is the problem. The problem is that if you live in west London it feels like living in a foreign country, everywhere you go you hear polish. The Britsh are far to polite to express our feeling of anoyance at the overcrowding so we just bottle it up. The problem is that we are just so wierd, we are cold and unfriendly and yet we seem to be the most wellcoming country in the world as far as migrants and immigrants are concerned. Its ironic that the B(Bloody)N(nobrained)P(Pratts) are gaining votes because of an increase in white immigration. The one very obvious fact that the polish migrants have brought up is that there is no genuine unemployment in this country, Any goverment worth its salt would end unemployment benefit now. The sad thing is that we are raising a nation of spoilt insolent bratts who think that having to work hard is beneath them. As far as the Tories getting in next time you had better hope not because they will soon wreck the economy and put us all out of work( You havent been here long eneogh to remember their last stint). So much as you get on my nerves jabbering away everywhere I go with your sullen expressions I recognise that you are what we used to be honest hardworking and probably our future