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Slavic vs Germanic thinking.... and the philosophical differences


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9 Mar 2011  #121

If we take away the silicon parts..


Here some silikonove Moskvich.
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14 Mar 2011  #122

Here some silikonove Moskvich.

Do they "sell" Moskvich without silikone but same result? ;)

The new "red army" ;)
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Moeemi  
29 Jan 2012  #123

I am czech, from left side germanized from right side russianalized. I am proud to be an atheist

Sooooooo simple : ]
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31 Jan 2012  #124

Moeemi:
I am proud to be an atheist

Why would not believing in something make you "proud"?
You certainly have low standards.
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1 Feb 2012  #125

Polonius3:
Dunno about Germanic guests, but if a Germanic suitor comes to ask for the hand of a pure-blooded Polish lass, she may follow the example of the legendary Polish Princess Wanda who preferred to jump into the Vistula ratherr than marry a Teuton.

Personally I think that a Germano-Polish/slavic mix is a good one.
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1 Feb 2012  #126

southern:
What are the main characteristics of Slavic philosophy and spirituality?

Slavic temperament involves profound emotions and reverence to the blessed Virgin by creating and embracing images of her.
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1 Feb 2012  #127

hague1cmaeron:
Personally I think that a Germano-Polish/slavic mix is a good one.


Because you're an example of such an alliance?
hague1cmaeron Activity: 16 / 1,420
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2 Feb 2012  #128

Sasha:
Because you're an example of such an alliance?

No. Although that would have been a sufficient justification(:

I am 1/2 Polish highlander, and 1/2 Silesian.
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2 Feb 2012  #129

hague1cmaeron:
I am 1/2 Polish highlander, and 1/2 Silesian.

You must have a great time at folk dances ;-)
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2 Feb 2012  #130

JonnyM:
You must have a great time at folk dances ;-)

I love highlander folk, but I can't dance and am to shy to sing):
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2 Feb 2012  #131

southern:
remarks of Hitler on Poles,Czechs and Russians.He really knew how to manipulate the Poles and the Czechs.He also knew the Croats and the Hungarians very well.


Could you do some Greek gossiping on those subjects? Curious.
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2 Feb 2012  #132

Natasa:
Could you do some Greek gossiping on those subjects?


What do you mean?Hitler was sure the Poles would not accept his proposals for Gdansk so he would be able to invade and defeat them while he knew the Czechs would not put any resistance to his threats so he did not have to mobilize his army.His estimations were mostly wrong about folks hehad no experience with like Serbs and Russians.He clearly underestimated Russians and their potential.
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2 Feb 2012  #133

I was thinking about
southern:
He also knew the Croats and the Hungarians very well.
this.
southern Activity: 78 / 7,172
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2 Feb 2012  #134

He says that Croats view themselves as being part of germanic race while all evidence points otherwise.That they speak a slavic language they regard it as irrelevant.
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2 Feb 2012  #135

What did he say about Hungarians?
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27 Jul 2012  #136

I can see a lot of 'Slavic thinking' with regard to hospitability in Sweden. I think it's because of the climate, as most Slavs live or lived in areas where distances were large and the weather harsh. Also there is very different mentality between Scandinavia and Germany. In Denmark they call it 'tribal society' because people are closely bound by being Danish and if you look different and were born here, you might still be treated with some kind of reserve, it's not offensive or anything, though, but you still are "not a real Dane". Even people from Southern Jutland are characterized as Germans sometimes, but I suppose the situation I know was just picking up on somebody from there. Also in Denmark it is important not to show you are better or think so, with regard to others, you need to be a bit humble to gain respect, and 'a bit' means a lot here. This is different than the UK for the most part or the US, but similar to Poland (my home country). And with regard to social thinking Scandinavia is somewhat similar to Russia (maybe not Russia recently, but in the old days most people lived there in small farming communities helping one another and doing social work).
On the other hand the difference is that in Scandinavia people care about making things in order and planned maybe more and that they are less warm to strangers (a 'hospitality' thought: they are not showing emotions to strangers but still 'inside' they are no different with emotions). And everything is more formal, including hospitability in sense of meeting arangements - you need to be on time, no be rude, say thanks - but that's nothing new, really. People also say that Scandinavians are not spontaneous and there is something in it, but it's more about that they need to plan everything and it takes time in my humble opinion.

In the end, I would like to say I have been living in the US, UK, Poland and Denmark and I see that Denmark-UK or Denmark-US in terms of 'mentality' differ like Poland and Denmark. Different Slavic nations have emerged as tribes in modern locations some 1500 years ago. This is when things separated between them. At least 4000 years ago or before Indo-Europeans have conquered Europe. Indo-Europeans means among others those who gave rise to Slavic and Germanic peoples' languages and culture. Indo-Europeans already had their own culture and religion, but because of this amount of time lapsed no-one asks about 'Indo-European mentality' and the question is similarly without and answer with regard to 'Pan-Slavic-mentality'. You can group South (Western and Eastern), Western and Eastern groups and then you are able to say something about the mentality of each group (maybe) and how it was shaped thanks to, among others, historic records, but not about Slavs as a whole. I believe the group is too diverse for it to be meaningful. And we have no data on early Slavs in an amount which would suggest their customs, religion and the point of view, like we have with e.g. Romans.

Although Sweden is a largely egalitarian and relaxed environment, hospitality and eating arrangements are often a formal affair.
Telephoke  
30 Sep 2013  #137

Slavic have different thinking than Germanics. In Germanic society morons, racists, nationalists are labeled as miasma and society's failures. In Slavic society they are "all welcome". Fascists, nationalists, morons and etc. and if you promote them as miasm, they label you as "close-minded"and they start avoid you. Of course if you label homosexuals as miasma they don't dub you as close-minded because they are an exception. So hypocrisy is natural there.

Unfortunely in Slavic tolerance morons are more dominant and they prevail. The same doesn't happen with Germanics that give them no chance to prevail by democratic ways. You don't just give permission to morons call you "close-minded" that's ridicously ironic.
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30 Sep 2013  #138

Well there are at least two volumes on this most intriguing of topics which I heartily recommend to any and all interested parties out there; one is called "The Germans:Portrait of a People" (written in English!) by Hans Kohn, a German émigré, from around 1960, the other written only in German with no existing translation "Die verspaetete Nation: ueber die politische Verfuehrbarkeit buergerlichen Geistes" - Nationhood Deferred: On The Political Gullibility Of The Bourgeoise Intellect, authored by Helmut Plessner in 1938 under the Nazis and reprinted in 1959. Both of these works, especially the former, attempt to explain "Germanic" thinking/personality to the unannointed Anglo-Saxon reader. Both books however suggest that Germany's latent burgeoning democracy along with the Thirty Years War may account for the Germans' inbred skepticism towards Christianity not to mention a collective rejection of European Enlightenment values cf. with Britain, the US or France, for example.

Not familiar with a book or books about Slavic thinking which go into this sort of detail other than those by Harvard historian Richard Piper on Russia. About Poland, I've yet to read a decent thesis about the subject:-)
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30 Sep 2013  #139

Telephoke:
The same doesn't happen with Germanics that give them no chance to prevail by democratic ways.

Nazi Rally

Ooops
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1 Oct 2013  #140

Ooops is rightLOL
R.U.R.  
23 Nov 2013  #141

shush
Torq:
southern: Slavic philosophy and spirituality

No such thing. The Slavic civilization divides itself, more or less among linguisitic lines.
We have Eastern Slavic languages and civilization (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus), Southern
Slavic (the former Yugoslavia countries and Bulgaria) and Western Slavic (Poland, Czech
Republic, Slovakia).


There is no such thing as slavic civilization.
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23 Nov 2013  #142

There most certainly is, slush! Whaddya call the Romanov Dynasty, Tsar Peter The Great, Lermentov, Pushkin or Tschaikowsky etc.., West African???
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23 Nov 2013  #143

What about the trypillian civilisation?
trypillia.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28:trypillian-civilization-in-the-prehistory-of-europe&catid=44:introduction&Itemid=146000

On par with Sumer and Messopotamia civilsations, Agriculture, Cermaics, Metalurgy. Most probably ancient slavs.
wumag.kiev.ua/index2.php?param=pgs20071/86
R.U.R.  
23 Nov 2013  #144

Wlodzimierz
Wlodzimierz:

There most certainly is, slush! Whaddya call the Romanov Dynasty, Tsar Peter The Great, Lermentov, Pushkin or Tschaikowsky etc.., West African???


You are talking about russian civilisation , not slavic one

Regards.

To be more correct , You are talking about eurasin (russian ) civilisation , not slavic one
Regards.

Sorry , about eurasian civilisation.

Sorry .
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23 Nov 2013  #145

There is no such a thing.
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23 Nov 2013  #146

Come on, people! Let's stop being obstuse; Slavic "civilization" clearly exists. Russians are Slavs, therefore their culture comprises the foundations of Slavic civilization, as do the Poles, Slovenes, Czechs or Croats:-)
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23 Nov 2013  #147

Of course that civilization exist. Exist and still kicking
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23 Nov 2013  #148

I'd say more culture than civilisation, if you're asking me.
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23 Nov 2013  #149

Both, in fact. A civilization simply means that its members live in cities (Latin "civis") vs. in huts or the like. A culture denotes a particular collective, shared experience of language, belief and/or ritual common to that people:-)
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23 Nov 2013  #150

They are interdependent, but a civilisation can contain several different cultures. A civilisation is usually considered to be 'bigger' than a culture. That's the case with our Western civilisation. It originated from the Celtic, Latin, Germanic, and Slavic cultures.
Some would say that there is a separate Orthodox civilisation, but I don't really want to start that debate ;)



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