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Dec 28, 2010, 07:59pm #
Thanks for the reply Sokrates!
I thought Grodno fell to the Bolsheviks in July,1920? Never realized a Belarussian Division held off the Bolsheviks, till late Sept.1920?
From what I know of Pilsudski's federal plans,Belarussia was supposed to be a part of a 3 canton state,joined with Lithuania.
A Lithuanian dominated canton,Wilno canton dominated by Poles,and Minsk centred canton dominated by Belarussians.
Looking back on this idea,it seems visionary?
Too bad the Treaty of Riga ended such a idea. Especially,when the Polish Army controled Minsk, and almost all of Belarussia.
Why were the National Democrats so hostile,to the Belarussian aspirations? When Belarussia supported the Polish cause as strong as they did, in 1920?
As far as Ukraine was concerned.
Ukraine in spring of 1920, was mostly illiterate peasants and workers,except for Kiev,and other major towns/cities. In Kiev from 1918 till 1920,wasn't there something like 14-15 government changes?
And,wasn't the public mood in April/early June 1920 Ukraine, reported to be something similiar to, suspicious apathy towards Petlura government,and the Polish political/military presence?
The Petlura government governed, for about 6-8 weeks. The Ukrainian Army expanded from 15,000 in April 1920,to 35,000. A modest,but respectable accomplishment,considering the political/military situation. Suggests to me the indolence of the Ukrainian masses,would have been overcome, after a period of stable governance?
Didn't the Ukrainian Army fight alongside the Polish Army,during the dark days of the summer of 1920? Participating in the campaigns of in Wolyn,Galicia,and battles of Lvov,Komarow.
I haven't found any statistics for the Ukrainian Army's number of Killed,Wounded,POW's taken while fighting the Bolsheviks,from April 1920 to Mid Nov.1920?
Were the National Democratic Party elites,the only ones, who considered the Ukrainian ideal worthless?
Soviet policies directed towards the Ukraine from 1921 till 1931/32, suggest the ideal of Ukraine was considered valuable?