All medieval Polish and Serbian common battles... for the golden freedom

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Sarmats

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There were numerous medieval battles where Poles and Serbs fought togather. Some of them were famous battle at Grunwald, Orsha battle, famous battle of Vienna under the command of Jan Sobieski, in battle over Sava river in year 1463... >>>

Orsha battle - metaphysically speaking it was battle Sarmatians vs. Scythians

The Battle of Orsha took place September 8, 1514, fought by the allied forces of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Kingdom of Poland (less than 30,000 troops), under the command of Hetman Konstanty Ostrogski, and the army of Grand Duchy of Moscow under Konyushy ("Tsar's Equerry") Ivan Chelyadnin (Иван Челяднин) and Kniaz (Prince) Mikhail Golitsin

Battle of Grunwald - metaphysically speaking it was battle Sarmatians/Scythians vs. Romans

The Battle of Grunwald (or 1st Battle of Tannenberg) took place on July 15, 1410 with the Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, led by the king Jogaila (Władysław II Jagiełło), ranged against the knights of the Teutonic Order, led by the Grand Master Ulrich von Jungingen. The engagement in the Polish-Lithuanian-Teutonic War (1409-1411) was one of the most important battles in Medieval Europe, and the largest battle to involve knights.

Battle of Vienna - metaphysically speaking it was battle Dragons vs. Serpents

The Battle of Vienna (German: Schlacht am Kahlenberg, Polish: Bitwa pod Wiedniem or Odsiecz Wiedeńska, Turkish: İkinci Viyana Kuşatması, Ukrainian: Віденська відсіч / Viděns'ka Vidsič) took place on 11 and 12 September[2] 1683 after Vienna had been besieged by the Ottoman Empire for two months. It was a battle of Austrian Habsburgs and their confederates versus the Ottoman Empire and fiefdoms of the Ottoman Empire near the Kahlen Berg mountain in Vienna. The battle marked the beginning of the political hegemony of the Habsburg dynasty in Central Europe.

The Vienna army was led by Ernst Rüdiger Graf von Starhemberg subordinate of Leopold I Habsburg, Holy Roman Emperor.

The large-scale battle was won by Polish, Austrian and German forces commanded by King of Poland John III Sobieski versus the Ottoman Empire army and the Ottoman fiefdoms armies commanded by Grand Vizier Merzifonlu Kara Mustafa Pasha.

SokratesThreads: 19 Posts: 4,464 Joined: Jan 19, 09 ♂ [Suspended]	Jan 16, 10, 04:02 #2
04:01 Metaphysically speakini its 9 beers.

CrowThreads: 365 Posts: 7,192 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂	Edited by: Crow Jan 16, 10, 23:22 #3
Sokrates: 04:01 Metaphysically speakini its 9 beers. its not that much. What`s 9 beers for you?

SokratesThreads: 19 Posts: 4,464 Joined: Jan 19, 09 ♂ [Suspended]	Jan 17, 10, 10:38 #4
Crow: its not that much. What`s 9 beers for you? Quite a lot Crow i havent eaten for 14 hours then but i see i could write more or less coherently so its Ok:)

CrowThreads: 365 Posts: 7,192 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂	Edited by: Crow Jan 17, 10, 13:49 #5
Sokrates: Quite a lot Crow i havent eaten for 14 hours then but i see i could write more or less coherently so its Ok:) true? what i can tell you is that i`m also fine after 9 beers ;) Come to Serbia and let`s drink togather, while there is something of Serbia that i can show to you. i mean, EU and NATO making us smaler and smaler. They say, its becasue we are evil

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,354 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 02:59 #6
Crow: Sarmats Crow: metaphysically speaking it was battle Sarmatians vs. Scythians Do you have any good links else then wikipedia on Sarmatians and Scythians? Im a bit interessted in different "nations" "tribes" in the Roman times. Reading a book called "Barbarians" written by Terry Jones It's fascinating

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Jan 20, 10, 12:45 #7

Mr Grunwald:

It's fascinating

listen this [what i mentioned in the other occation]

today`s Balkan Serbs live on territories where was core territory of Skordisci (one of main Celtic tribe if not the main), today`s Czechs live in what was core territory of Boii (one of most known Celtic tribes). Poles same as Serbs are related to Sarmatians/Scythians and Scytians- by old chronicles were in fact designated as Celts. Boii themselves were registered as both- Celts and Sarmatians. There were Sarmatian Serboi, too. Balkan Serbs were also designated as Raseni, Rashani (other name for Serbian medieval state was Raska- from where coming term Racowie for Serbs in Poland), Raci, Rachani, Triballi. In old chronicles Triballi was name of main Tarchian tribe. Dacians were related/kin to Trachians and Iliryans. German medieval sources designate Balkan Serbs as Iliryans. We know that old chonicles state that Dacians were Sarmatians. Etruscans were related to Raetians and Raetinas were related to Celtic Boii, by old sources. Ethnic name that Etruscans used for themselves was Raseni/Rasna. Germans even today use designation Wends for Lusatian Serbs. Old chronicles state that Veneti/Venedi were Celts. Lingiuistic science established corelation between Sarmatian and Serbian name. It is said that possible, Balkan and Lusatian Serbs still using once universal name of all Slavs- Sarmatian name, that went tru Greak and Roman transcription (because they aren`t capable to pronounce form SRB and they inserted leter A > SAR). Ethnic name `Serbians` (Sarmats) in form of `Srbinda` is only ethnic name of Western civilization mentioned in Rg Veda texts. It is logical considering that Sarmatians lived from Europe, via Eurasia to the Asia.

Mr Grunwald:

Do you have any good links else then wikipedia on Sarmatians and Scythians?

links aren`t problem

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Edited by: Crow Jan 20, 10, 13:36 #8

Mr Grunwald:

"Barbarians"

isn`t this intersting... possible only accidental similarity but, it is `too much` similarities in case with ancient Slavs

Serbians (domestic form- SRBI) > Srbinda (in Rg Veda texts) /SRB > S-A-R/ > Sarmatians > /M > B/ > Sarbatians (note form Sarb inside of evolutive form of the word) > /S > B/ > Barbatians > Barbarians. All this almost perfectly overlap with territories where Slavs live today, where they lived by old chronicles, where were located Sarmatians/Scythians, where were key `Barbarian` territories!

NOTE: To be clear. Here, i don`t state that all Slavs coming from the Serbs but that once, as linguistic science suggests, all Slavs used some form of Serbian was in use as universal ethnic designation of all Slavs.

Simple, its possible that Balkan and Lusatian Serbs still using that old universal ethnic Slavic designation. Name of Russian province of Siberia and Polish `Sarmatism/Sarmatian legends` are just some of proof in this dirrection.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Jan 20, 10, 14:25 #9
Mr Grunwald: Reading a book called "Barbarians" written by Terry Jones It's fascinating The movie about it is even better: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_playlists&search_que ry=Terry+Jones+Barbarians+The+savage+Goths&uni=1 Arminius YAY! :)

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,354 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Edited by: Mr Grunwald Jan 21, 10, 00:12 #10
Bratwurst Boy: The movie about it is even better: THERE IS A MOVIE?! OH BOY! Crow: isn`t this intersting... Yes it was thank you

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