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BzibziohThreads: 6
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Joined: Oct 15, 08 ♀ [Suspended] 		 Apr 16, 11, 17:25    #181
Lyzko:
Jan Karski, who helped alert the West to the presence of the Polish death camps, deportations etc..

I'm sure he was not alerting about these :s
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Lyzko:
"Ethinc cleansing"?? Israelis of the Palestinians?? I think no.

Then you are delusional. The fact that 700,000 Palestinians were driven out of their homes in 1947 and 1948 is a fact and part of the historical record. Those that drove them out were Zionists. You are the one "blaming the victim" not me.
Lyzko  Apr 16, 11, 17:31    #183
Oh I am! The late Mr.Karski, as you know, was a Polish diplomat who attempted to get in touch with all his colleagues and let the Allies know exactly what was happening in Auschwitz as well as elsewhere. I'm sure too that he was aware of the actions of Wallenberg, perhaps also of the small yet strong Danish and Norwegian Resistance Movement(s).
Lyzko  Apr 16, 11, 17:36    #184
What you speak of is the debate regarding ownership of land. In fact, the British Mandate included ALL of that time Palestine. Israel was but one small part of that territory. What the British however did not take into account was that Jews based their beliefs on Bibllical reference to Eretz Yisroel as the Jewish, not the Arab, Holy Land. Jerusalem, still at the storm center of this ancient debate, has always remained an essentially Jewish city, although the two faiths Christianity and Islam, also lay claim to Jerusalem as a holy site.
Lyzko  Apr 16, 11, 17:38    #185
I believe also thay Karski had been summoned to Washington to get in contact with President Roosevelt himself concerning this matter, although I might be mistaken on this particular point.
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Bzibzioh:
I'm sure he was not alerting about these :s

He could have been alerting people about the death camps at which Polish people were murdered. Those Polish death camps....
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Joined: Oct 15, 08 ♀ [Suspended] 		Edited by: Bzibzioh  Apr 16, 11, 20:06    #187
Lyzko:
I believe also thay Karski had been summoned to Washington to get in contact with President Roosevelt himself concerning this matter, although I might be mistaken on this particular point.

Yes, he had a private audience with Roosevelt. To talk about Nazi's death camps in Nazi occupied Poland.
Lyzko  Apr 16, 11, 20:23    #188
There you are then.

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czarThreads: 4
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Joined: Mar 3, 10 ♂ 		Edited by: czar  Apr 17, 11, 00:58    #189
no, i am sure that she is not there as there are no nazi death camps or nazi occupied poland anymore.
Lyzko  Apr 17, 11, 21:34    #190
Czar, to which "she" are you perchance referring?-:) Sure you understood the prior posts?LOL
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Des Essientes:
These Mizrahi Jews have been discriminated against in the Zionist Entity ever since by the Ashkenazi who call them "Schwarzes".

I don't want to mess up your world view and preconceived notions, but mizrahi jews and ashkenazi jews are not at war with each other. They are not two separate entities. In fact they are intermarrying at a very fast rate. We all go to the same schools and work at the same companies. There have been several army chiefs of staff that were from Mizrahi backgrounds. We had two presidents who were mizrahi. Among the leaders of Israeli industry and financial world there are both askenazim and mizrahim (or sefaradim). Most families are mixed to some extent. The distinction between the two is now mostly an issue of history and religious traditions – our grandparents spoke different languages, but we all speak hebrew. There are different styles of praying and different tunes to synagogue chants, but ashkenazim and sefaradim often pray at each other's synagogues as a matter of course.

You want to color israel as a racist society, but it's one of the world's least racist societies.
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yehudi:
You want to color israel as a racist society, but it's one of the world's least racist societies.

The Zionist Entity has ruled the West Bank and Gaza strip for over 43 years and in all that time the millions of Palestinians in these areas, who pay taxes to the Zionist Entity, have not gotten any civil rights such as the right to vote. That is because they are not of Jewish ethnicity. That is racism plain and simple. In addition to this any Jew in all the world may move to the Zionist Entity at any time, but Palestinian refugees, whose families lived in the area for centuries, are denied the right of return because they are not Jewish and that too is racism. Now new laws have been passed in the Knesset that make it legal to discriminate in housing on the basis of ethnicity and that make it illegal for Arabs to commemorate the Nakba. Zionism is racism and Yehudi is a liar.

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