Can anyone from Poland tell me about Auschwitz and The Ghetto?

I just read something wrong, and I thought they they didn't learn about it at school.

sjam

The Jewish Order Police and the Polish “Blue” Police played a key role in the smuggling carried out through the walls. The Jewish policemen found it to be a profitable business, whilst the Polish police, were also able to make a profit out of the smuggling."

It is claimed that the Polish Blue Police were forced to collaborate with the Germans or face death but there is no documenatry evidence to support this claim.

In October 1939, General Governor Hans Frank ordered the mobilization of the pre-war Polish police into the service of the Germans. The policemen were to report for duty or face the death penalty.[3]
Hempel, Adam (1987). Policja granatowa w okupacyjnym systemie administracyjnym Generalnego Gubernatorstwa: 1939-1945. Warsaw: Instytut Wydawniczy Związków Zawodowych. p. 83.

It should be noted that some officers of the Polish Blue police were awarded the Righteous Among the Nations award for their help in rescuing Polish Jews.

A significant part of the police personnel belonged to the Polish underground resistance organization Armia Krajowa[15], mostly in the counter-intelligence of the Home Army and the National Security Corps.[16] Some estimates are as high of 50%.[17] Blue Police followed German orders reluctantly[18][11] and that the officers had little choice but to obey their orders or face death.[8] The Blue Police often disobeyed German orders or even acted against them[11], and some of its officers were ultimately awarded the Righteous Among the Nations

The story of the 13's like that of the Polish Blue Police,

The group[4] vied for control of the ghetto with the Judenrat and infiltrated the Jewish opposition within the ghetto.[5]

“Yesterday, the third of August they slaughtered Zamenhof and Pawia Streets. They did not confiscate houses, but blockaded the entire block for expulsion. The SS killers stood guard while the Jewish police worked inside the courtyards. This was a slaughter in proper style¬- they had no pity even on infants and nurslings. All of them, all, without exception, were taken to the gates of death.” Scroll of Agony, p.398 ¬

“There is weeping and wailing in every house. The Judenrat was ordered to supply 1,500 youths, and the Jewish police began to make the rounds of the candidates’ doors during the night. Their coming was accompanied by cries and wails, but the police, in spite of their being Jewish, harden their hearths and do their duty. Since every edict is in essence nothing but a business to its executors, so here too is a business. Instead of 1,500, 2,000 are taken out of their home; 1,500 are turned over to the Nazis, 500 set free after paying ransom to the Jewish police. This time the edict is more severe; even the crippled and deformed are taken.” Scroll of Agony p.374

“At the beginning, the time of negotiations, a directive was issued to the Judenrat to deport 6,000 a day; in point of fact they are now deporting close to 10,000. The Jewish police, whose cruelty is no less than that of the Nazis, deliver to the Stawki Street more than the quota to which the Judenrat obligated itself.” Scroll of Agony, p.384

“Sometimes there are several thousand people waiting a day or two to be transported because of the shortage of railroad cars. Word has gotten around that the Nazis are satisfied that the extermination of the Jews is being carried out with a requisite efficiency. Their deed is being done by the Jewish slaughterers.” Scroll of Agony

It is not my motive to prove that Jews were more commie or less commie.

Criminals who runed this camps are in Israel.

Tell me more about Post WWII camps and give me commanders names :) Tell me why they live in Israel and claim to be Israelis not Polish.

As to career in post WWII times ... just read the names I have mentioned.

Harry is unable to continue debate as Harry

I think he has two computers.

Do they teach this in school?

1jola: Do they teach this in school?

They certainly did in mine. Apparently they didn't in yours (if you actually got any kind of education).

“At the beginning, the time of negotiations, a directive was issued to the Judenrat to deport 6,000 a day; in point of fact they are now deporting close to 10,000. The Jewish police, whose cruelty is no less than that of the Nazis, deliver to the Stawki Street more than the quota to which the Judenrat obligated itself.” Scroll of Agony, p.384

"Obstacles to Resistance
Resistance groups sometimes encountered hostility from the Jewish council (Judenrat) of a ghetto, which feared that the discovery of arms or the flight of Jews to the forest would provoke harsh reprisals from the Germans in accordance with their announced principle of “collective responsibility,” whereby the whole community would be punished for any infractions of German regulations. For example, the Jewish council in Nowogrodek was opposed to Jews escaping from the ghetto; here the Jewish police, which was set up to assist the Jewish council in enforcing compliance with German regulations, reportedly used to hide the shoes of Jews they suspected might flee."
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=es&ModuleId=10007218

You are sad. Did you come up with that one all by yourself? Try this:

In October 1939, General Governor Hans Frank ordered the mobilization of the pre-war Polish police into the service of the Germans. The policemen were to report for duty or face the death penalty.[3]
Hempel, Adam (1987). Policja granatowa w okupacyjnym systemie administracyjnym Generalnego Gubernatorstwa: 1939-1945. Warsaw: Instytut Wydawniczy Związków Zawodowych. p. 83.

According to the German plan, the police force was to consist of approximately 12,000 officers, but the actual number of its cadre was much lower.[4][5] However, some sources put the numbers as high as 14,300.[6] The Encyclopedia of the Holocaust reports its manpower as 8,700 in February 1940 and states that it reached its peak in 1943 with 16,000 members.[7]

sjam:
The story of the 13's like that of the Polish Blue Police,

It isn't. 13 and Żagiew were Jewish Gestapo agents. Volunteers.

So? Without smuggling the people would have starved.

The name was first used to describe British camps during the second Boer war.

Harry I am not going to argue about this camps.

Poland was Soviet occupied ... as Afhganisan was in 80's many soldiers continued fight against comunist regime.

Poland was sold by allies

500 000 Polish patriots were closed in prisons after actions made by Berman who ordered to build camps.

You can call this camp as you want.

Many commies were Jews it is simple fact. Morel was siting in Israel. Wolińska in London...

and defended themselfs using their ethnic origin.

They taught you about Jewish Gestapo agents in school. Right.

That is probably an acceptable position for you to adopt, but not for a moral person!

The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd ed. defines concentration camp as: a camp where non-combatants of a district are accommodated, such as those instituted by Lord Kitchener during the South African war of 1899-1902; one for the internment of political prisoners, foreign nationals, etc., esp. as organized by the Nazi regime in Germany before and during the war of 1939-45.

Similar camps existed earlier (such as the US concentration camps for Cherokee and other Native Americans in the 1830s, in Cuba (1868–78), and in the Philippines (1898–1901) by Spain under the Restoration and the US respectively[5]), the English term "concentration camp" was first used to describe camps operated by the British in South Africa during the 1899-1902 Second Boer War[6]. Ostensibly conceived as a form of humanitarian aid to the families whose farms had been destroyed in the fighting, the camps were used to confine and control large numbers of civilians as part of a scorched earth tactic.

The last time concentration camps were used by the British was the forced but relatively peaceful relocation of hundreds of thousands of ethnic Chinese squatters from the edge of the Malayan jungle to "New Villages" during the "Malayan Emergency" to choke off supply and support for the Malayan Communist Party.

And why did Polish authorities spend so much time trying to extradite a Jewish Pole from the UK (Wolińska) but made no effort to try the Catholic Poles who took part in the Fieldorf ‘trial’ and live/lived in Poland

No need to argue. Just post the names of the Jews who you claim ran the Polish concentration camps and now live in Israel. Either that or admit that you were lying, yet again.

But more Polish people co-operated with the regime than fought against it.

Good to see you falling back to argument number two (i.e. if you can’t blame the Jews, blame the British).

Prince: Poland was Soviet occupied ... as Afhganisan was in 80's many soldiers continued fight against comunist regime.

But more Polish people co-operated with the regime than fought against it.

MOREL (GOOGLE IT)

So, British invention than. Not so great input into world's civilization I'd say. There's an English saying I believe, something about stones and peoples in glass houses...

Camps were build by NKVD.

Commusims had no chances in free Poland.

I'm not British.

The name was certainly a British invention (although the concept behind the original camps was probably closer to the Strategic Hamlet Program than what was seen in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s).

Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee, OM, KBE, FRS, FREng, FRSA (born 8 June, 1955) is an English computer scientist and MIT professor credited with inventing the World Wide Web.

Interesting. Are you picking your nationality depending on the weather or there's another key to your madness?

You have a real talent for spinning facts I'd say. It's a gift you were born with or you went to uni for that?

1jola: You are sad. Did you come up with that one all by yourself? Try this:

In October 1939, General Governor Hans Frank ordered the mobilization of the pre-war Polish police into the service of the Germans. The policemen were to report for duty or face the death penalty.[3]
Hempel, Adam (1987). Policja granatowa w okupacyjnym systemie administracyjnym Generalnego Gubernatorstwa: 1939-1945. Warsaw: Instytut Wydawniczy Związków Zawodowych. p. 83.

Do you have this book? Does page 83 reprint this Frank oder document or is it just a reference to another reference?

If as you say the Polish Blue Police were there under pain of death they weren't forced to be involved the brutal exploitation of the ghetto inhabitants. They volunteered themsleves into it.

1jola: So? Without smuggling the people would have starved.

This totally moronic statement says a lot about you as a person.

... Sell me your gold watch for a slice of bread or I'll watch you starve to death....

... I'll sell you my rope to help save you from drowning!

That is probably an acceptable position for you to adopt, but not for a moral person!

In Lviv the Ukrainian residents enthusiastically supported the proclamation, the city's significant Jewish minority accepted or remained neutral towards the Ukrainian proclamation, while the Polish majority was shocked to find themselves in a proclaimed Ukrainian state.

She was the daughter of a Jewish pharmacist from Stryj. In 1920 she graduated from a high school in Lwow; later, she studied history at the Lwow University. In 1920, she married a Zionist activist Natan (Nathan) Brystiger[2], and a year later she give birth to a son Michal.

After the joint Nazi and Soviet attack on Poland, Brystiger accepted Soviet Union citizenship and became an active member of the Soviet administration. She created the so-called Committee of Political Prisoners, which helped the NKVD to imprison several members of prewar Polish opposition movements . She was denouncing people on such scale, that she antagonized even Communist party members.

Bzibzioh: Interesting. Are you picking your nationality depending on the weather or there's another key to your madness?

I'm still considering which nationality I want to be if I want to be any nationality at all.

Would you care to debate the facts by providing evidence which refutes my statements or do you prefer to just engage in personal abuse?