What British unit liberated Poland in 1945??

KsysiaThreads: 39 Posts: 545 Joined: May 6, 09 ♀	Edited by: Ksysia Dec 6, 09, 11:57 #1
It's the second time, when I was giving blood, when an English paramedic told me that his Father was in the unit liberating Poland in 1945?? I am not aware of any British unit in Warsaw in 1945, not that I'm well versed in History. I know about the Warsaw Concerto in 1944 (thank you Britain), but 1945? That's when the Soviets were doing the liberating...

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,834 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Dec 6, 09, 12:03 #2
I am not an historian, but neither have I ever heard of any British unit liberating Poland. The Russians also did not liberate it, they merely replaced the Nazi occupation with their own.

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,345 Joined: Sep 14, 06 ♂	Dec 6, 09, 12:11 #3
Ask the guy next time, which 'Poland' had he on mind: - the one with 'polar bears' - or the one with windmills and tulips (:

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Dec 7, 09, 04:16 #4
Bartolome: Ask the guy next time, which 'Poland' had he on mind: - the one with 'polar bears' - or the one with windmills and tulips (: Good question Although you should consider he maybe having some Russian or soviet ancestors! :)

dtaylor5632Threads: 49 Posts: 4,459 Joined: May 2, 09 ♂	Dec 7, 09, 04:27 #5
wouldnt 1945 give u a clue?

polishcanuckThreads: 10 Posts: 583 Joined: Feb 11, 07 ♂	Dec 7, 09, 05:40 #6
Ksysia: British unit in Warsaw in 1945 I doubt it. I don't think "uncle joe" would have allowed "evil capitalists" in poland in '45...

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Dec 7, 09, 05:51 #7
Ksysia: It's the second time, when I was giving blood, when an English paramedic told me that his Father.... What nationality was his father? We all assume it was english but...

KsysiaThreads: 39 Posts: 545 Joined: May 6, 09 ♀	Dec 7, 09, 08:03 #8
he said English...

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,834 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Dec 7, 09, 09:09 #9
Our GIs made it only as far east as the River Elbe. To the east of there the Soviets held sway.

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Dec 7, 09, 10:45 #10

The only more or less proven fact of allied troops' presence on today's Polish territory were general Patton's tanks seen in Swieradow April,1945 .
http://www.regioset.pl/mapkagif.php?x=121&y=618
According to prof.Lojek who investigated the local population of Swieradow, Patton's tanks were withdrew after two days because of Soviet political intervention.

However there are no reports on this "raid" in Patton's memories.

Polish link:
http://www.insomnia.pl/II_woj._światowa:_US_Army_w_1945r._na_Dolnym_Śl ąsku_-t573687.html

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Dec 7, 09, 13:41 #11

Ksysia:

It's the second time, when I was giving blood, when an English paramedic told me that his Father was in the unit liberating Poland in 1945?? I am not aware of any British unit in Warsaw in 1945, not that I'm well versed in History.

There were no units of British land forces in Poland at that time. There were a couple of case of British escaped POWs rejoining the fight against the Nazis (one took part in the Warsaw Uprising) but those were rare and in no way organised.

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Dec 7, 09, 16:53 #12
Harry: There were no units of British land forces in Poland at that time. There were a couple of case of British escaped POWs rejoining the fight against the Nazis (one took part in the Warsaw Uprising) but those were rare and in no way organised. Even Harry has it all right. I wonder if Britts feel they liberated all Europe?!

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 7, 09, 18:21 #13
Mr Grunwald: Even Harry has it all right. I wonder if Britts feel they liberated all Europe?! Who knows? But I'm sure that very many Brits know that they provided a nice safe place for the King of Norway and his minions while Mr Quisling provided the most lasting of Norwegian contributions to WWII.

SteveramsfanThreads: 2 Posts: 401 Joined: Nov 22, 09 ♂	Dec 7, 09, 18:59 #14
Ksysia: Father was in the unit liberating Poland in 1945 The Royal Air force flew some missions to Warsaw from Italy to parachute supplies to the Warsaw Uprising in August 1945. Maybe this is what he meant? My Grandma's first boyfriend is burried in Krakow when his plane was shot down.

BorrkaThreads: 49 Posts: 770 Joined: Apr 25, 08 ♂	Dec 7, 09, 19:48 #15
Steveramsfan: to parachute supplies to the Warsaw Uprising in August 1945. Maybe this is what he meant? It was August 1944. I mean the Uprising.

SteveramsfanThreads: 2 Posts: 401 Joined: Nov 22, 09 ♂	Dec 7, 09, 19:54 #16
yes :) I know I have the book in front of me :) It was the 1945 in the quote that made me write the wrong date I think.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Dec 7, 09, 20:11 #17
Harry: Mr Quisling provided the most lasting of Norwegian contributions to WWII Mr grunwald owned BIG time by Harry :-)

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06 ♂	Dec 7, 09, 20:38 #18
Harry: safe place for the King of Norway Carbisdale Castle - the worlds best youth hostel Wow !

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Edited by: Mr Grunwald Dec 8, 09, 01:00 #19

Harry:

Who knows? But I'm sure that very many Brits know that they provided a nice safe place for the King of Norway and his minions while Mr Quisling provided the most lasting of Norwegian contributions to WWII.

yeah thanks to that moron traitor he "saved" the Norwegian nation no death camps or anything here.

time means:

Mr grunwald owned BIG time by Harry :-)

You think that I think that the Norwegian contribution was any but great except of the trade fleet then your very wrong.
We Norwegians were so great we hanged him later too, then suddenly some years later we thought ey wait a minute... aren't we hanging our own countrymen? STOP!!!
Humanistics twats

szkotja2007:

Carbisdale Castle - the worlds best youth hostel

You know his wife was in the British family

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 8, 09, 01:31 #20
^ You are too modest! You had your SS legion and your two SS regiments and your two SS battalions to go with the most famous Norwegian leader.

KsysiaThreads: 39 Posts: 545 Joined: May 6, 09 ♀	Dec 8, 09, 08:02 #21
well maybe his Dad was in some raid in Poland, that's possible. But it is a SECOND paramedic who tells me that... That would give a very high percentage of people to randomly meet and learn they were sons of heroes... maybe there was an operation but is now forgotten for some reason?

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 8, 09, 13:28 #22
Ksysia: maybe there was an operation but is now forgotten for some reason? No there wasn't. The only formal British operations which took place in Poland in WWII were air missions (unlike WWI).

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Dec 8, 09, 16:00 #23
Ksysia: But it is a SECOND paramedic who tells me that... Strange pick up line, but hey... That reminds me of the French resistance cell in the Warsaw Ghetto...

enkiduThreads: 18 Posts: 983 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Edited by: enkidu Dec 8, 09, 17:01 #24
Do you still remember Polish heroes in Battle of Britain? Well: [url=http://untreaty.un.org/unts/1_60000/1/11/00000504.pdf ][/url] Aparently they count every piece of ammunition, every gallon of petrol, every spitfire and then - They charge Poland for this.

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Dec 8, 09, 17:24 #25

enkidu:

Aparently they count every piece of ammunition, every gallon of petrol, every spitfire and then - They charge Poland for this.

Yet another tired old lie. Perhaps you'd also like to tell us about how Poles weren't invited to the London victory.

But seeing as you can't even be truthful about the academic qualification which you hold, I suppose it's a bit much to expect you to be truthful about important things.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Dec 8, 09, 18:23 #26
Mr Grunwald: You think that I think that the Norwegian contribution was any but great except of the trade fleet then your very wrong. I was not thinking anything of the sort i was just pointing out that you got owned. Which you did BIG time.

KsysiaThreads: 39 Posts: 545 Joined: May 6, 09 ♀	Dec 8, 09, 18:43 #27
enkidu: Aparently they count every piece of ammunition, every gallon of petrol, every spitfire and then - They charge Poland for this. I'm not sure why that upsets you, enkidu? there was an agreement signed between ours and theirs commands, that we pay for ourselves. you should be proud that we didn't take money.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 8, 09, 18:56 #28
Ksysia: you should be proud that we didn't take money. Say what? Do you have any idea how much money the Polish government accepted from the British and American governments?!!

ShortHairThugThreads: - Posts: 1,375 Joined: May 1, 09 ♂	Dec 8, 09, 18:56 #29
Ksysia: I'm not sure why that upsets you, enkidu? That’s not upsetting anyone; it is simply stating the facts which many Brits are not aware of. Some posters here like Harry would like everyone to believe that the Brits sponsored everything and paid for the Poles. He keeps repeating over and over how Britain was in debt till 70’s because of that. Once in a while a reminder is in order.

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Dec 8, 09, 19:06 #30

ShortHairThug:

That’s not upsetting anyone; it is simply stating the facts which many Brits are not aware of. Some posters here like Harry would like everyone to believe that the Brits sponsored everything and paid for the Poles. He keeps repeating over and over how Britain was in debt till 70’s because of that. Once in a while a reminder is in order.

Poland paid for very little of what it used: the vast majority of material was a gift from the UK and the USA.

And for the record, the UK was still paying back its loans for, among other things, the equipment given to Poles until 29 December 2006. Which means that not only was it paying off Poland's war debt, it was at the same time gifting Poland bucketloads of money via the EU. Just a little reminder for you.

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