Christopher Colombowicz: America's discoverer Polish not Portuguese, claim historians

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Nov 30, 10, 01:11 #31
Softsong: It's a big New World though, they could split it into North and South discoveries and share the glory. You forgot the West and the East, lol Hey, anything is possible nowadays, I wouldn't be surprised if they'll find out that Mozart was really Mozartski and Einstein, Einsteinowicz.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Nov 30, 10, 01:28 #32
Stu: Well, if this is not a joke, than Poland has something to be proud of Don,t forget Marco Polowicz and Vasco de gamaski...!

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Edited by: guesswho Nov 30, 10, 01:36 #33
wildrover: Don,t forget Marco Polowicz and Vasco de gamaski...! Jeez, I forgot those two, too. Sorry about that. Oh, before I forget, there was a James Cookski too.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Edited by: wildrover Nov 30, 10, 01:44 #34
I bet when all the truth comes out...Poland actually owns the whole world...! Which means...Poland invaded itself , failed to come to its own rescue , and allowed itself to occupy itself after the war...! Who is gonna take the blame for that i wonder....?

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Nov 30, 10, 01:50 #35
wildrover: Who is gonna take the blame for that i wonder....? I'll take the blame, what the hell.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Nov 30, 10, 01:53 #36
Good man...you can always say it was an accident...

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Nov 30, 10, 02:14 #37

Stu:

Well, if this is not a joke, than Poland has something to be proud of ... :D

"An international team of distinguished professors have completed 20 years of painstaking research into (Christopher Columbus') beginnings.

The fresh evidence about Columbus’ background is revealed in a new book by Manuel Rosa, an academic at Duke University in the United States.

He says the voyager was not from a family of humble Italian craftsmen as previously thought - but the son of Vladislav III, an exiled King of Poland".

Very Interesting article.

Thanks for the post Stu :)

If more and more distinguished professors are coming to this conclusion then there has to be something to it.

EurolaThreads: 6 Posts: 2,647 Joined: Dec 2, 06 ♀	Nov 30, 10, 02:19 #38
and why nobody mentioned Amerigo Vespuccinski? America bears his name now. No?

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Nov 30, 10, 02:29 #39
Eurola: and why nobody mentioned Amerigo Vespuccinski? America bears his name now. No? I agree with you, that's an insult indeed.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Nov 30, 10, 02:41 #40
Eurola: America bears his name now. No? Shouldn't it be "Ameriga"? :):):) "Vinland" sounds much nicer...;)

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Nov 30, 10, 02:50 #41
Bratwurst Boy: Shouldn't it be "Ameriga"? :):):) Not really, according to the "new facts" presented today, it would have to be either "Amerigski" or "Amerygowicz".

EurolaThreads: 6 Posts: 2,647 Joined: Dec 2, 06 ♀	Nov 30, 10, 02:51 #42
Bratwurst Boy: "Vinland" sounds much nicer...;) Not all lost. Vinland (Wineland) name is used for California. :)

shewolfThreads: 5 Posts: 1,835 Joined: Dec 23, 06 ♀	Nov 30, 10, 04:56 #43
Did anyone mention Lewicz and Clarkski?

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Edited by: hague1cmaeron Nov 30, 10, 08:37 #44

zetigrek:

Now let someone tell me that there is no antipolish sentiment...

You are not wrong about that, try some of these little gems.

this one is from a doctor: "I notice you picked a particularly Polish looking (ie. round and greasy) picture of CC for this post." (-my response to him would be you are from America buddy, last time I had a look there were quite a few round greasy individuals in your country)

"you should've seen him try to tie his shoe."

"Which explains all the sailors lost while digging graves for funerals at sea."

"Hah!! That explains it all. Speaking of which, anybody know why all the polish navy's submarines have glass bottoms? So they can see their air force. Sorry, couldn't resist."

and this an extract from the actual article: 'New research indicates that Christopher Columbus was the son of a Polish king! "How many explorers does it take to mistake the Bahamas for China?"

http://gawker.com/5701340/christopher-columbus-was-polish

Yes being a Pole can be a bit tough sometimes):

AussieSheilaThreads: 6 Posts: 113 Joined: Aug 14, 10 ♀	Nov 30, 10, 09:12 #45
Dailymail UK It turns out that Christopher Columbus was Polish, not Italian. Just as well he wasn’t thinking of setting out for the New World today. Otherwise he would have stopped off in Southampton, immediately found work as a plumber and someone else would have had to discover America.

Ashleys mindThreads: 7 Posts: 1,346 Joined: Nov 2, 10 ♀	Nov 30, 10, 09:16 #46
AussieSheila: It turns out that Christopher Columbus was Polish, not Italian. Just as well he wasn’t thinking of setting out for the New World today. Otherwise he would have stopped off in Southampton, immediately found work as a plumber and someone else would have had to discover America. Oh how I miss England... Hey I lived in Southampton with a leaky toilet for 3 years! (with Poles!)

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Nov 30, 10, 09:54 #47

hague1cmaeron:

hague1cmaeron

Just because he went the wrong way and misnamed the Native Americans "Indians"...well maybe the author DOES have a point.
NYYCaptain15

COME ON!!!!! the NYYCaptain15 cant be the only dude with the polish jokes???? this should be effortless!

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08 ♂	Nov 30, 10, 10:00 #48
Ashleys mind: with a leaky toilet for 3 years! (with Poles!) leaky toilet must have made them feel at home.

szczeciniakThreads: 5 Posts: 119 Joined: Sep 8, 09 ♂	Dec 6, 10, 21:00 #49
Merged thread: “Columbus wasn't Italian” Christopher Columbus Son of a Polish father and a Portuguese mother??? link: http://watchingamerica.com/News/78858/christopher-columbus-was-the-son -of-king-vladislav-iii-of-poland/ do we change the history now!!

Czarnkow1940Threads: 11 Posts: 167 Joined: Mar 5, 10 ♂	Dec 7, 10, 11:14 #50
Stu: Well, if this is not a joke, What kind of person would joke about this? Stu: Poland has something to be proud Yes it does now it is time for Poland to invade USA and reclaim it.

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Dec 7, 10, 11:32 #51

hague1cmaeron:

You are not wrong about that, try some of these little gems.

this one is from a doctor: "I notice you picked a particularly Polish looking (ie. round and greasy) picture of CC for this post." (-my response to him would be you are from America buddy, last time I had a look there were quite a few round greasy individuals in your country)

"you should've seen him try to tie his shoe."

"Which explains all the sailors lost while digging graves for funerals at sea."

"Hah!! That explains it all. Speaking of which, anybody know why all the polish navy's submarines have glass bottoms? So they can see their air force. Sorry, couldn't resist."

and this an extract from the actual article: 'New research indicates that Christopher Columbus was the son of a Polish king! "How many explorers does it take to mistake the Bahamas for China?"

http://gawker.com/5701340/christopher-columbus-was-polish

Yes being a Pole can be a bit tough sometimes):

Yes Yes like people of Polish ancestry don't know there is anti-Polish prejudice out there LOL

Czarnkow1940Threads: 11 Posts: 167 Joined: Mar 5, 10 ♂	Dec 7, 10, 11:45 #52
wildrover: Poland actually owns the whole world Really? I would have never though of that ;) wildrover: Poland invaded itself , failed to come to its own rescue , and allowed itself to occupy itself after the war It also partitioned it self several times. wildrover: Who is gonna take the blame for that i wonder....? the Jews or the English

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Dec 7, 10, 14:09 #53
Zinedine Zidanowicz next? Or maybe Marek Polowicz (Marco Polo)? All those Polish connections are there, you know? ;0

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Edited by: AdamKadmon Dec 7, 10, 22:56 #54

...the voyager was not from a family of humble Italian craftsmen as previously thought - but the son of Vladislav III, an exiled King of Poland...
For some reason he hid the true identity of his Polish biological father from most people during his lifetime, and history books have been none the wiser.

The author of the article does not know that the story is absolutely impossible: (s)he should have known that the Władysław III was a homosexual and thus would have rather had sex with men rather than with women, ergo would not have children.

Here goes the facts: Jan Długosz in his Chronicles of the Kingdom of Poland unambiguously suggested kings homosexuality. It is clear, however, that faced with Władysław possible homosexuality, the popes preferred not to take unnecessary risks by canonising him.

However, the journalists' efforts could be used to a good cause. Let me explain. There are many saints whose behaviour, judged by the modern standards, could be considered more bizarre than homosexuality. Isn't it a high time for the RCC to make up for the lost of time and proclaim Władysław Warneńczyk the saint. What do you think about this "ultimo aggiornamento"?

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Dec 7, 10, 23:22 #55

Stu:

Christopher Colombowicz: America's discoverer Polish not Portuguese, claim historians

"Who Discovered America before Christopher Columbus?
Many people had reached the continent of America before Columbus. The people from Asia reached America thousands of years before Columbus and became the inhabitants of this land. Norse expeditions to America had started much before 1492 AD i.e. in 986 AD. These expeditions were initiated by Bjarni Herjolfsson. Most of the expeditions before the time period of Columbus were not documented properly. As per some records, Chinese Admiral Zheng was the first to discover America. It is however, said that these claims cannot be considered true. This is because, none of the voyages of Admiral Zheng went beyond the Indian Ocean. As per Icelandic sagas, Norse explorer, Leif Erikson had reached America long before 1492. The remains of a viking-type settlement were found by archaeologists in Canada (1963). These remains are believed to be around 1000 years old."

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Dec 7, 10, 23:42 #56

guesswho:

The remains of a viking-type settlement were found by archaeologists in Canada (1963). These remains are believed to be around 1000 years old."

Does this mean Norwegians get to take over the Indian casinoes? Instead of Tipi's and Totem poles with ornaments, we'll have "Valhalla Casino and Gambling" and "Valkyrian Roulette"...with humongous statues of Thor and Odin at the entrance...hmm...

I read about the Kennewick man....9300 years ago....maybe he was Andrzej Kennewicki?

Ah, history is funny nowadays with the whole DNA and carbon dating thing going into overdrive....in the end we probably didn't come out of Africa, but Siberia.

DariuszTelka

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Dec 7, 10, 23:54 #57
DariuszTelka: Does this mean Norwegians get to take over the Indian casinoes? I only provided this information to show who really discovered America. Whoever Columbus was, Portuguese, Italian or Polish, it wasn't him.

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Dec 8, 10, 09:22 #58

guesswho:

I only provided this information to show who really discovered America. Whoever Columbus was, Portuguese, Italian or Polish, it wasn't him.

Thanks for the info! I actually find it very interesting, that so many "facts" that we grew up with are being questioned, and in many instances have to be revised. We had a very bold and brave explorer here in Norway, Thor Heyerdahl, who set sail over the Pacific Ocean from South America to the Polynesian islands in a self-made raft, to show that people there also were descendants from South America and not only Asia as previously thought. He also built a raft and sailed between the old South America and Africa and the Middle East to show how trade and interaction between these areas could be possible as far back as 3 000 years ago. He tried and failed, then tried again, and succeeded on rafts built from materials used back then. Before that, nobody thought it was possible. And so the historybooks had to be changed/altered, to show that indeed was possible.

One of the few points worth mentioned is that he was ridiculed, his theories were seen as "adventure-tales" and many "real" professors and historians did not take him seriously. They had to swallow their pride considerably when his rafts hit the shores of his destination intact with everyone onboard alive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_Heyerdahl

Anyone visiting Norway must visit this exhibition, it's in Oslo. They have the raft and everything on display.

One of the last things he worked on before his death was the fact that a people living close to the Black sea by the river Don, were the Scandinavians forefathers as mentioned in the chronicles of Snorre Sturlasson famous Folk Saga writings, who people mostly have believed were a mix of folk tales and imagination. Heyerdahl though had other ideas, his theory, combined with excavations and relics found in a city named Azov, was that these people in the old folktales were real and migrated up north as the Roman Empire grew bigger, and settled in todays Norway, Sweden and Denmark. "The hunt for Odin":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakten_p%C3%A5_Odin

These are quite fascinating theories, and if one has an open mind, some are logical. But again, most professors and historians are sceptical, but also mocking him openly again. Maybe they will stop one day.

So, if Christopher Colombus really had a Polish father, then let the people following this do their work, and see what they come up with.

DariuszTelka

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