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 Aug 11, 11, 17:09    #181
If you want to define Zionism as the age-old desire of Jews to return to Zion, then Marx was even further from that than he was from the political Zionist movement later started by Herzl (years after Marx died). Marx was not interested in anything having to do with the Jewish religion, which he hated, or Jewish peoplehood, which he saw as an economic issue.

To say Marx was a zionist makes as much sense as saying that he was a Buddhist. Drop it.


Marx was a high level intellectual scholar, low level realist, low level pragmatist..
Herzl-like people are more realist, more pragmatist. They foresaw that Jews in Europe after all troubles for centuries had needed a land to be able to live safely.
I didn't say Marx was a believer of a religion, in Judaism or in any other religion. But, like all people, he too knew that there was a term zion-ism, even before Marx himself too, which hadn't become reality till Herzl-like people started to make it real due to the need.
While Marx-like high level intellectuals were busy with socialism in Germany, Europe and Russia, people like Herzl, also seeing experiences of Marx-likes, became more pragmatic and went for realizing Zion movement which I consider it was totally necessary. But, Marx-like people will be understood later, after we live economy crisis more and more.

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 Aug 12, 11, 17:55    #182
Communism collapsed of it's own weight, because it was a failed construct.

Beside, the international bankers who created it were moving to a more efficient way to enrich themselves called globalism.
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 Aug 12, 11, 21:36    #183
Communism collapsed of it's own weight, because it was a failed construct.


gorbatschow sold it and jelzin finished the job ;)

Beside, the international bankers who created it were moving to a more efficient way to enrich themselves called globalism.


;)
aoife  Aug 13, 11, 01:02    #184
Communism collapsed of it's own weight, because it was a failed construct.


Very insightful! I recently fell while walking because my walk was ... not good.

I've found an interesting thought on communism in Larry Harris book on markets structure. He says communism fell in large part because communication problems; economy planning is to complex to be solved by any single agency. And it seems to hit the nail on the had. It's more efficient to let a person organise its life than try to gather all the information about all the people in the country to decide what supposed to be done.
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 Aug 13, 11, 01:15    #185
I think the communication was to blame, too. If Poles did not know of the riches in the West... ;)
aoife  Aug 13, 11, 01:44    #186
My first thought was: bastards patronising us again! But second thought...


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