The dark corner of Poland in the Holocaust

ZubrThreads: - Posts: 12 Joined: Dec 1, 10 ♂	Dec 1, 10, 12:01 #121
Babi jar is a miracle and not a Hollywood fake It was the only documented Assumption after the age of Jesus and Mary. In a ravine near Kiev precisely 33.771 jews were murdered by a German-Ukrainian firing squad. God the Almighty had taken all the victims to him. Not a bone, not a tooth, not even one of the around 50.000 cartridges remained in the Ukrainian earth.

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Edited by: Harry Dec 1, 10, 13:04 #122

Zubr:

Babi jar is a miracle and not a Hollywood fake
It was the only documented Assumption after the age of Jesus and Mary. In a ravine near Kiev precisely 33.771 jews were murdered by a German-Ukrainian firing squad. God the Almighty had taken all the victims to him. Not a bone, not a tooth, not even one of the around 50.000 cartridges remained in the Ukrainian earth.

I do wish that you holocaust deniers could at least make an effort to not tell lies which have been repeatedly shown to be lies. Excavations have been made at Babi Yar and numerous bodies were found there. I refer you to, for example, photograph No. 2-46031 from the Central State Archive of the Cine and Photodocuments of the Ukranian SSR. The precise number comes from the report of the unit which actually did the shooting.

Do try a little harder with your lies, bigot.

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Dec 1, 10, 14:09 #123

Oh, it seems that the Nizkor website has removed the foto, for which reason? But there are small discrepancies in the written content of this page At first one read:”
Lying in the trench are a great many
bodies side-to-side and on top of numerous other bodies….

“The excavation of a grave in Babi Yar in Kiev where thousands
of Soviet citizens had been shot by the Hitlerites, Kiev, 1944."”
And searching for Babi Yar at Nizkor,too, one finds the statement:

“Beginning with June, 1943, the Germans carried out measures to hide the evidence of their crimes. They exhumed and burned corpses, and they crushed the bones with machines and used them for fertiliser.”
Which version do you prefer?
By the way, usually reliable Google has also problems with Babi Jar fotos, some are in ravine and other on a plain near a wood, and the same foto shows the execution and also exhuming years later.

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Dec 1, 10, 14:27 #124

Zubr:

Oh, it seems that the Nizkor website has removed the foto, for which reason?

Ever heard of a thing called copyright?

Zubr:

Which version do you prefer?

The version which was established at the Nuremberg trials: that the work of Sonderaktion 1005 at Babi Yar was not completed before the Red Army overran the site.

Interesting to see you both calling Jews liars and defending Nazis: you are a great help in demonstrating to people why Nazis considered some Poles as subhumans who needed exterminating (although you no doubt would have declared yourself to have a German grandmother, signed the DVL and then volunteered for the SS, before changing sides along with tens of thousands of other Poles when it became obvious the Nazis would lose).

ZubrThreads: - Posts: 12 Joined: Dec 1, 10 ♂	Dec 3, 10, 14:35 #125
Harry: Ever heard of a thing called copyright? Copyright for a foto latest from 1945? or has it been fabricated later on?

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 3, 10, 14:42 #126
Zubr: Copyright for a foto latest from 1945? I doubt Poland deviates significantly from the norm, which is that copyright is valid for around 50-100 years after the death of the author.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Dec 3, 10, 15:00 #127
Zubr: “The excavation of a grave in Babi Yar in Kiev where thousands of Soviet citizens had been shot by the Hitlerites, Kiev, 1944."” I always found it interesting how in contemporary reports the Russians talk of "Hitlerites" and rarely of Nazis and even less of Germans. Stalin must have had a special grudge mainly against Hitler to order that kind of talk....

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,441 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Edited by: PennBoy Dec 3, 10, 15:17 #128
Bratwurst Boy: Russians talk of "Hitlerites" In Poland too, Hitlerowcy is much more common than Nazistowcy. Zubr: “The excavation of a grave in Babi Yar in Kiev where thousands of Soviet citizens had been shot by the Hitlerites, Kiev, 1944."”

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Dec 3, 10, 15:19 #129
PennBoy: In Poland too, Hitlerowcy is much more common than Nazistowcy. Interesting!

ZubrThreads: - Posts: 12 Joined: Dec 1, 10 ♂	Dec 3, 10, 15:26 #130
Penn, the man at the very left is Putin's father

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Edited by: isthatu2 Jan 11, 11, 18:58 #131

Torq:

Sorry, but you can't accept one part of the Bible that
you like and reject another, because you don't like or don't understand it.

LMAO,thats exactly what the catholic church has been doing for 15 hundred odd years mate.....
By the way,Jesus was a communist, all that rich man and camels through needles mularky....

re "Hitlerites" the actual translation from cyrylic is Gitlerites,which to a brit is hilarious :)

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