Delegation inclusive of Muslims to visit Auschwitz

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Jan 31, 11, 21:22 #31

convex:

That sounds so sad, guess they should have fought harder....we're wandering well off-topic.

If you think this plan to spread the gospel about the holocaust amongst Muslims has nothing to do with justifying the existence of the Zionist entity in Palestine then you are sorely mistaken. When Poland was partitioned and ruled by foreigners would you have dismissed the Poles' desire for liberation by saying "guess they should've fought harder"?

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Jan 31, 11, 22:27 #32

Des Essientes:

When Poland was partitioned and ruled by foreigners would you have dismissed the Poles' desire for liberation by saying "guess they should've fought harder"?

You do realize that this organization is run jointly run by Jews, Muslims, and Christians, right?

And yes, if Poland would have fought harder, it wouldn't have been partitioned. If you want to start a thread on it, feel free. If you want to discuss this organization, this is the place to do it. If you want to bring this thread off topic by going on about Israelis, Palestinians, zionists, jihadis, whatever, without having any relation to the original post, then start a thread about it.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Jan 31, 11, 22:37 #33
Des Essientes: That is racism plain and simple. Or....as the Poles like to say to 12 million Germans.."You lost the war...move on!" What about their right to return? Racism?

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Jan 31, 11, 23:45 #34

NomadatNet:

It is comedy especially when people from Allies of the WWII critisize Zionists.

Yes,tell that to the British Paras blown up by zionist terrorists in the King David hotel bombing...allies,yep,that word again.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

So that said I guess anyone can critisize what ever the heck they like.
Ultra zionists though are more likely to spit on these good people than join them in a happy clappy chorus of save the world.
Unfortunatly it is always the ones with guns who call the shots and that tends to discount liberal hippy types no matter how noble their intentions.

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Feb 1, 11, 00:30 #35

isthatu2:

zionist terrorists

So, the term terrorists again. When combining this term with another term, things change from individual actions to major actions? It is why we been hearing the term "Muslim Terrorists" cause Bin Laden is a Muslim?

Lets say this Irgun group was Zionist.
Reading the wikipage you gave its link, a paragraph:

Speaker after speaker in the House of Commons expressed outrage. Ex-Prime Minister Winston Churchill, a committed Zionist, criticized the attack. He also related the bombing to the problems within the Mandate system, and he advocated allowing further Jewish immigration into Palestine.[22] Chief Secretary for the Government of Palestine, Sir John Shaw, noted that the majority of the dead had been members of his own personal staff. He said, "British, Arabs, Jews, Greeks, Armenians; senior officers, police, my orderly, my chauffeur, messengers, guards, men and women - young and old - they were my friends."

Winston Churchill too became a terrorist now? But, more than this, why he said these? He lived during two world wars period. I am sure he knew things more than this nomad who is living some decades later.

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Feb 1, 11, 00:50 #36

Bratwurst Boy:

Or....as the Poles like to say to 12 million Germans.."You lost the war...move on!"

What about their right to return? Racism?

Indeed 12 million Germans we expelled from various states in Eastern Europe during and after the Second World War of which some 7 million were expelled from Poland by the Allies and then by the Communist government of Poland. If it is the current government of Poland's policy to deny these Germans their right of return then that policy is wrong, but is that the policy of the Polish government today?

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Edited by: isthatu2 Feb 1, 11, 00:58 #37

NomadatNet:

Lets say this Irgun group was Zionist.

Well,you could hardly call them rastafarians...

master Yoda,you are the supreme being when it comes to taking 2+2 and =7....
The Irgun was a terrorist organisation that even the Haganah(another zionist organisation)classed as terrorists. Terror is Terror no matter what the state of your foreskin is....

If you have a black and white view of the world,fine,but dont put words into my mouth. I never once said all zionists were terrorists.

Black and white view of the world you have,hhhm,fine this is,never say I all zionists terrorists are,words put in my mouth not you shall,hhhrrmmm.The farce is weak in this one.

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Edited by: NomadatNet Feb 1, 11, 01:20 #38

You too.. U2.. (was this a music group?)

Jewish terrorists, Christian terrorists, Muslim terrorists, Chechen terrorists, Irish terrorists, Basq terrorists, etc etc etc.. Anyone else remained unmentioned?

So, Zionists too? aren't clean, but, have dirt, terrorists? Come on, Zionists, you too zionist Churchill, admit that you too have dirt.. Whoever has the most dirt can be the leaders of the world.. (Hello permanent Vetoers of UN.)

Seriously.. You twisted the term Zionism by connecting it to another term, terrorism. I wrote what Zionists were about. They bought a land from sellers (Allies of WWI&II) by spending their money. It is not different than any ordinary individual today who is buying a land by spending money. If you are buying a land by money, you too are a Zionist then.

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Feb 1, 11, 01:22 #39

Des Essientes:

If it is the current government of Poland's policy to deny these Germans their right of return then that policy is wrong, but is that the policy of the Polish government today?

Don't mind me...just trying to liven up the discussion. ;)

Between Poland and Germany all is okay....open borders, both peoples can buy land, work and live where they want! No need for a "right of return".

We came a long way...

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Feb 1, 11, 01:34 #40

NomadatNet:

Seriously.. You twisted the term Zionism. I wrote about what Zionists were about. They bought a land from sellers (Allies of WWI&II) by spending their money. It is not different than any ordinary individual today who is buying a land by spending money. If you are buying a land by money, you too are a Zionist then.

You seem to be under the illusion that the Zionists bought all the land that they currently govern. They did buy around 6% of historic Palestine the other 94% was gotten by conniving with the powers that run the U.N. and by violence.

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Feb 1, 11, 01:41 #41

NomadatNet:

If you are buying a land by money, you too are a Zionist then.

Talking Sh1te you are....

NomadatNet:

Chechen terrorists, Irish terrorists, Basq terrorists, etc etc

In Israel many of them are they ? So WTF has this got to do with an Arab/Isreali peace group?

NomadatNet:

I wrote what Zionists were about. They bought a land from sellers

Wow,if thats what you think modern Zionism is about you realy have been stuck on degohbah too long master yoda....Im not talking nut jobs and their "zionist conspiricy" b0ll0x but modern ,on the ground ,usually Yank,Aussie or British jews, building ilegal settlements,throwing stones and p1ss and sh1t at arab school girls and buying land from unarmed arabs while toting M16s and glocks on their hips...sure,they sometimes pay,but,hell,so did the germans,technically pay Polish buisness owners for the buisnesses they took over....
Thers a big gap between dispising these nasty thuggish bigots and then branding all historical "zionists" as the same...I dont make that leap but you seem to insist that I do....

NomadatNetThreads: 6 Posts: 1,492 Joined: Mar 28, 09 ♂	Feb 1, 11, 02:07 #42
Wowww, Zionists.. What a power you have been and I have not realized yet. Maybe, you are greater than the CommonWealth Empire centered at Britain? Maybe, even greater than world police, NATO. Maybe, even greater than those five permanent vetoers of UN. None of them couldn't have handled you, but, they all are crying powers..

warszawskiThreads: 60 Posts: 2,387 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Feb 2, 11, 23:42 #43
Muslims have to stand up with Jewish friends because in Europe, anti-Semitism is rising. And where there is anti-Semitism, Islamophobia is not far away, said British Mufti Abduljalil Sajid. Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2011/02/01/muslims-visit-auschwitz.html# ixzz1CqOPUhiJ

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Feb 3, 11, 00:16 #44
LMAO.....Jewish schools and temples arnt guarded against Christains in Britain.....

warszawskiThreads: 60 Posts: 2,387 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Edited by: warszawski Feb 3, 11, 01:26 #45
Here is a film in which jews and muslims look for the greater good http://stagevu.com/video/rvcqdpuiycfj

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