Who Deserves Credit for the 1989 Revolution?

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Mar 4, 10, 05:14 #61

marqoz:

Prehistory isn't history.

Pre-history is also interesting but not the only field of my interest...actually only if it comes in topics like: "This is our land" or "These are our towns", or "We were here first".
I mostly only object with some well placed maps and stats to show who really was first (or second)...that's all! heh

(And contrary to nuts like Crowie I have the gathered mainstream knowledge of countless historians, reseachers, archaelogians and their books behind me, so!)

marqoz:

By the way which tribe do you prefer to consider as you ancestors?

All blue eyed people have the same ancestor I've read!
I would prefer to count Arminius to my ancestors but I'm more proably some germanic/slavic/celtic mongrel as most Europeans (especially central Europeans - ESPECIALLY in the territory of the once HDR) are! ;)

marqoz:

Believe me, you don't read carefully.

Well, that is the third time you tell me I don't understand...stop that! :(

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Mar 4, 10, 05:58 #62

Bratwurst Boy:

Well, that is the third time you tell me I don't understand...stop that! :(

Where? I told you don't read carefully. It doesn't mean you are stupid, does it? In fact you look from your posts quite the opposite. Happy? ;-)

Bratwurst Boy:

All blue eyed people have the same ancestor I've read!

And I've read that we the people all have the same Forefather and Foremother: Adaś and Ewka.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Mar 4, 10, 06:00 #63
marqoz: Happy? ;-) marqoz: And I've read that we the people all have the same Forefather and Foremother: Adaś and Ewka. Take that back! That is just a mean rumor!!! ;)

marqozThreads: - Posts: 218 Joined: Feb 4, 10 ♂	Mar 8, 10, 22:20 #64
Bratwurst Boy: I would prefer to count Arminius to my ancestors but I'm more proably some germanic/slavic/celtic mongrel as most Europeans I'd prefer Segestes. If only Varus had believed him, Germania would be a Roman province ending on Albis or even Viadrus and it would be Slavonic people who crushed the Empire.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Mar 9, 10, 03:08 #65
Segestes this ******hole of a **f*****! marqoz: and it would be Slavonic people who crushed the Empire. Heh:)

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Mar 9, 10, 14:46 #66

Bratwurst Boy:

Segestes this ********

Don't be so angry. It was all Arminius's fault. It was him who kidnapped Segestes's daughter, Thusnelda and married her by force. Segestes had no options left. I don't like very deeply his style, but I can feel his emotions.
And Arminius... His emotions drove him to betray Romans, his friends, and to fight Segestes, which had better relations with them. Fighting Romans he was - in fact - striking his father-in-law.

One more melodrama with a woman in centre, which later was lifted up to the level of nation-liberating struggle.

Bratwurst Boy:

marqoz: and it would be Slavonic people who crushed the Empire.
Heh:)

I understand you irony. OK. Slavonic tribes not alone but under very instructive leadership of Huns and Avars. ;-)

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Mar 9, 10, 15:14 #67
marqoz: It was all Arminius's fault. It was him who kidnapped Segestes's daughter, Thusnelda and married her by force. Oh please, she run away with him, as she was madly in love with Arminius. Segestes would had loved to marry her to a nice little roman consul instead, but now she got pregnant by Rome's enemy. WHOA, this story has the stuff of a cinema blockbuster!

marqozThreads: - Posts: 218 Joined: Feb 4, 10 ♂	Mar 9, 10, 15:23 #68
Bratwurst Boy: WHOA, this story has the stuff of a cinema blockbuster Investment proposal? Maybe...

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Edited by: Havok Mar 13, 10, 00:10 #69

Bratwurst Boy:

I personally distrust homeless, rootless, "world citizens" without knowledge and interest in their heritage and culture, but each to his own..

Yo,
Most Germans don't give rat’s as$ what Polish people think. Why? Germans work hard, get paid well and feel secure about their future. In the US lives about 300 million of people and I guarantee you that 99% of the population doesn’t know/care “when or how Berlin wall collapsed. It’s a jeopardy question at best.

My own sister doesn’t have a clue where our country is. When I talked to her she was convinced that Poland is somewhere in the US. (She was 10 at that time) anyway, this is a silly example of how important this is to rest of the people here and much more people in India or China etc.

Oh, same goes with Germany. No one cares where it is either. Same principle.

What's my point?

No one cares except for us. Honestly Wurst, that's how I know you're a Polak like me,,, and not a Deutsch.

Is someone watching you 24/7 checking if you're German enough? WTH is wrong with you dude?
Don't get me wrong, people like you are amusing. I'm actually grateful. You got me off my lazy ass to respond in writing. and if you gonna mention something about my grammar in the next post, don't bother, I don't really give shi*.

First, I would like you to explain why you care so much about ’89 and second, why are you so afraid to be mistaken for a Polak.

world citizen

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Mar 13, 10, 02:53 #70

Havok:

Honestly Wurst, that's how I know you're a Polak like me,,, and not a Deutsch.

Well his family originates from Silesia so I could call him a Pole but, he wants to be German so I respect that

Havok:

Most Germans don't give rat’s as$ what Polish people think.

Oh they do lol, they do
Oh wait when I cam to think of it not that many Germans on this forum
O_o

Havok:

My own sister doesn’t have a clue where our country is. When I talked to her she was convinced that Poland is somewhere in the US.

Geography lesson NOW!

Havok:

(She was 10 at that time)

Oh, does she know it now?

Havok:

What's my point?

Ehrm your new and WELCOME TO PF!
To inform you most people here aren't Polish (if their not Polish Americans, then it's an other thing)

Havok:

Is someone watching you 24/7 checking if you're German enough? WTH is wrong with you dude?

Hhahahahhaha
It gave me pictures of the German Polizei watching BB with cameras if he is enough German over the internet (LOL)
*Was thinkz Sie? Ist das Deutsche opffürzehl?*
*Ja naturlich, ich liebe Sportz auf*

marqoz:

And I've read that we the people all have the same Forefather and Foremother: Adaś and Ewka.

:O

enkiduThreads: 18 Posts: 983 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Mar 13, 10, 03:05 #71
mateinone: History in Australian schools is likely to be made up of Australian History (85%) World History (15%) My GF told me that the Polish Forums is just a waste of time. Tomorrow I will impress her with my brand-new knowledge that the Australia have actually got some history. Whole 85% of it. Wow!

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Mar 13, 10, 06:34 #72

Mr Grunwald:

Well his family originates from Silesia so I could call him a Pole but, he wants to be German so I respect that

I'm getting into this...
Same here, Great-grandpa was in Prussian army, grandpa in Wehrmacht, dad got a German passport, Why? Don’t know. He never visited Germany in his live.
My family is very "German" by Polish standards.

Who cares what he wants? He's a Polak cause he thinks like one. Just like me.

HavokThreads: 14 Posts: 1,508 Joined: Mar 12, 10 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: Havok Mar 13, 10, 06:53 #73
Mr Grunwald: Oh, does she know it now? Somewhat, she is 18 now. Studding to to be a physical therapist. I've concluded Geography is not her forte. Mr Grunwald: To inform you most people here aren't Polish (if their not Polish Americans, then it's an other thing) Got it, no Polish here. Shhhhhhhh....

HavokThreads: 14 Posts: 1,508 Joined: Mar 12, 10 MEMBER ♂	Mar 13, 10, 07:23 #74
Havok: Hhahahahhaha It gave me pictures of the German Polizei watching BB with cameras if he is enough German over the internet (LOL) Was thinkz Sie? Ist das Deutsche opffürzehl? Ja naturlich, ich liebe Sportz auf Indeed, i don't get it either. I'm sure, being a Devil's Advocate is not easy. I'm glad someone understands him. Are you "German" too?

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,968 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Edited by: Amathyst Mar 13, 10, 09:41 #75
mateinone: French Revolution Are you joking, this is 2nd grade stuff you learn in school, we also learnt about the Spanish revolution and Russian revolution... Amathyst: [quote=mateinone]Minor Greek History [/quote] If you call 2 double periods a week of Classical Studies minor then, you must be right, I dont agree you are though. As for Mr Clarkson...he presents a motor show...

grubasThreads: 20 Posts: 1,452 Joined: Feb 1, 10 ♂	Mar 13, 10, 11:19 #76
Amathyst: As for Mr Clarkson...he presents a motor show... Pretty entertaining show I would like to add.

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Edited by: mateinone Mar 30, 10, 05:01 #77

mateinone:
I am not sure what Poland really could have done to make it any different

marqoz:Uh, Solidarity?

Uh, Solidarity? What exactly does that have to do with what I posted. You quote me thinking over what the options were for Poland to have changed the Western perception and you quote simply Solidarity. Which in context means nothing at all.

mateinone:I am not even sure why it is important to Poland for others to know Poland's role.

marqoz: Maybe Poles don't like to be treated as men from nowhere.

So how was Amsterdam? I ask because you have just come up with a 2/2 for nothing posts. So apparently a Pole is treated as a man from nowhere because the west uses the symbol of the Berlin Wall to emphasise the end of communism in mainland Europe? Really that is what it means?? What a ridiculous concept.

Ironside:
Australian History (85%)

marqoz: Geez! How boring it must be. 4 hours a week about Aborigines. What you're doing at that time? Trying to play didgeridoo?

Oh how ridiculously ignorant you are. It is good though when people like yourself post rubbish like this, because quite simply it leaves no doubt as to the mental maturity of the person on the other end.

Australia's history as a settlement is only 200 years old, but (like any country) a lot has happened in 200 years. More than some others, less than some others, but more than enough to fill the minds of students. Pick any country in the world practically and study only their history for your history classes and you will still come up with enough. There are obviously people who study nation's histories for the large portion of their careers, let alone 85% of history time at school. But whatever, you are a waste of time.

RonWestThreads: 3 Posts: 165 Joined: Jan 6, 10 ♂	Mar 30, 10, 07:26 #78
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