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 Jul 29, 10, 19:37    #1
How many of them ? I don't know!
I know only about one:

Arend Dickmann (1572–1627) - Admiral in the Polish Navy. He was a Dutchman, born in Delft under the name Arend Dijckman. From 1608 he lived in Gdansk, being an owner of a merchant ship. In 1626 he entered in the service of the Polish king Sigismund III Vasa. On 24 November 1627 he was nominated as admiral of the Polish Navy.

During the victorious Battle of Oliwa against the Swedish fleet (28 November 1627) he commanded the Polish Navy in the galleon Sankt Georg. The Poles captured the Swedish galleon Tigern and made another, Solen, to be scuttled by her crew, but Admiral Dickmann was killed onboard the Tigern, being shot by a cannonball through his legs. He received a state burial in Gdansk.
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Edited by: Softsong  Jul 29, 10, 20:10    #2
Many Dutchmen came to the Gdańsk delta area to help control the waters as they did in their homeland. They established by invitation of Polish nobles, Oleander villages.

http://holland.org.pl/art.php?kat=art&dzial=polska&id=5&lang=en
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 Jul 29, 10, 21:21    #3
I've been to Poland in 2004 you know.

xD
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 Jul 29, 10, 22:52    #4
A J:
I've been to Poland in 2004 you know.

Annals are deadly silent about it!
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 Jul 29, 10, 23:02    #5
A J:
I've been to Poland in 2004 you know.

Do tell, why? how did it go?
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 Jul 29, 10, 23:42    #6
Ironside:
Annals are deadly silent about it!


I guess I should mutilate a statue next time. Or maybe I should carve ''A J was here'' on every park bench I'm going to sleep on!

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Edited by: Ironside  Aug 22, 10, 01:52    #7
A J:
I guess

Vandals Germanic tribe had a great tradition for mutilations
They kin Dutch are also in business of destruction
Somehow they destroy balance of the nature putting barriers to the sea
Now, they want mutilate objects of beauty - barbarians!
Yet, they will learn someday, weeping for lost Art - its only beginning!
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 Aug 22, 10, 03:22    #8
Preface

The purpose of this publication is to provide documentation for the material cultural heritage associated with the Dutch settlements in Mazowsze dating from the 17th century to the 1940s, including villages, crofts, residential and farming buildings, as well as churches and cemeteries.

Dutch settlement, which targeted non-cultivated floodplains located along the rivers (Vistula, Bug Wkra, and others), was developed on the lands of the Republic of Poland in the 16th century. The colonists originated in Friesland and Flanders and while their inflow was a result of religious prosecution, it also had pragmatic reasons. Since the settlers were highly skilled in the art of land cultivation and settlement development, they were very desirable colonists.

They were always settled either along rivers, or in lowland and marshy areas. Due to their centuries-old experience in fighting the floods in their native country, the colonists were able to turn barren land, seemingly unsuitable for cultivation, into a state of flourishing agriculture. They achieved this by establishing a complex system of channels,

http://holland.org.pl/art.php?kat=art&dzial=maz&lang=en&id=pref
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 Aug 22, 10, 21:42    #9
The Dutch were very numerous during 16th/17th century. At one point Polish king was going to kick them out but james V! of Scotland wrote to him asking for them to be allowed to stay.
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 Aug 22, 10, 22:39    #10
Trevek:
At one point Polish king was going to kick them out but james V! of Scotland wrote to him asking for them to be allowed to stay.

Why James?
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Edited by: Trevek  Aug 22, 10, 23:07    #11
Ironside:
Why James?


The Dutch were his allies, I believe. Probably cos they were protestant nation. James VI of Scotland was also James I of England.

James was quite matey with Polish king, as there were more than a few Scots in Poland at that time too.
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Edited by: McCoy  Aug 22, 10, 23:25    #12
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Józef_Beck

Józef Beck (October 4, 1894, Warsaw – June 5, 1944, Stăneşti, Romania) was a Polish statesman, diplomat, military officer, and close associate of Józef Piłsudski.

In his international diplomacy, Beck sought to maintain a fine balance in Poland's relations with its two powerful neighbours, Germany and the Soviet Union[6]. Pursuant to this, in July 1932 he concluded a nonaggression pact with the Soviet Union[7], and in January 1934 a German-Polish Non-Aggression Pact[4][7]. He sought guarantees of security for Poland from the western powers: from Great Britain[7] and France. His signal accomplishment in this realm was securing such guarantees from Britain in the spring of 1939, when it had become clear that Germany would not be swayed from embarking on war, and renewal of the Franco-Polish Alliance. Beck's policies could not avert war, but they did ultimately cause Germany's attack on Poland to embroil Germany in conflict with the western powers

Rodzina Józefa Becka miała wywodzić się (według rodzinnej tradycji) od Bartholomeusa Becka, flandryjskiego marynarza, który pod koniec XVI wieku znalazł się w służbie polskiej

His grand grand ...father Bartholomeusa Beck was a sailor from Flanders and came to PL at the end of XVI c.

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he seems to be of dutch origin. judgeing by last name. former head of the mountain rescue organisation
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Edited by: Trevek  Aug 22, 10, 23:39    #13
http://home.planet.nl/~farjo001/weichsel_v_uk.htm

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 Aug 26, 10, 23:26    #14
Try this, the Green Gate in Gdansk was built by a Dutch architect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Gate
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 Aug 27, 10, 00:34    #15
Dutchmen in Polish history !

after first encounters with the Dutchmen, ancestors of modern day Poles finished as slaves on some slave market on western side of Europe, Near East or Northern Africa. Later, Dutchmen were considered to be among masters and Poles among servants.

Today, Dutchmen and Poles are in alliance. That`s in short chronology of Dutchmen in Polish history.
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 Aug 27, 10, 00:37    #16
A few more links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pas%C5%82%C4%99k
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mannerist_structures_in_Northern_ Poland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avi_Sch%C3%B6nfeld
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dantzig
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krzysztof_Arciszewski
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 Aug 27, 10, 00:38    #17
Crow:
after first encounters with the Dutchmen, ancestors of modern day Poles finished as slaves on some slave market on western side of Europe, Near East or Northern Africa. Later, Dutchmen were considered to be among masters and Poles among servants.


Well, everybody has his place in history :)))))

>^..^<

M-G (but besides, Dutch specialised in Black African Slaves, not in Polish Slaves)
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 Aug 27, 10, 02:37    #18
MareGaea:
but besides, Dutch specialised in Black African Slaves, not in Polish Slaves

I hope they enslaved Berbers...



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