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Fall of Western boundraries of Poland or story of `How are the mighty fallen`


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Edited by: Crow  Jun 10, 10, 20:35    #1
no matter are we see it as destine of Celts or destine of Slavs it is destine of European natives who were forced to retreat and were then mercilessly hunted by slave hunters. We Slavs (SLOVENI) remembered that time as beginning of so called `Drive to the East` that was followed with violent germanization. Now, while others writes Slavic history we can at least try to remember...

Beowulf - Cry of the Celts



The Conversion and Destruction of the Wends
By E.L. Skip Knox
http://oit.boisestate.edu/sknox/thesis/chapt2.html

INVADERE ET SUBIUGARE

"Charles, travelling through Saxony, came to the Elbe River. Invading the land of the Slavs who are called Wilzi, he conquered them in great battles and subjugated them to his law."

One trait often associated with the Saxons by modern historians when speaking of avarice is "land hunger." Thompson speaks of "the covetous land-grabbing aspiration of the great" nobles, and of their "lust for land."67 Dvornik uses the actual phrase, also calling it a "greed for new possessions."

The Conversion and Destruction of the Wends
By E.L. Skip Knox
http://oit.boisestate.edu/sknox/thesis/chapt2.html

By then the three forces of the sword, the cross, and the plough were definitely welded into a single force, a Drang nach Osten. By 1181 the actual territory won was still rather modest in comparison with later acquisitions: Holstein and Brandenburg were the main regions.



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 Jun 10, 10, 22:05    #2
Decide what you are. Celts? You must be joking. SOUTH-Slavs? Yes of course.
What makes you think that you Ottomanized south-Slavs have the same culture as the Poles, who are definitely part of Western Europe.
First Lusatians, then Sarmatians, now Wends...When will Attila appear?
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 Jun 10, 10, 22:47    #3
sobieski:
When will Attila appear?


Attila is Hun.
Crow:
a Drang nach Osten. By 1181 the actual territory won was still rather modest in comparison with later acquisitions: Holstein and Brandenburg were the main regions.


Can you imagine?A Serb still mourning the loss of Holstein and Brandenburg to Germanics.
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Edited by: Crow  Jun 10, 10, 23:20    #4
sobieski:
What makes you think that you Ottomanized south-Slavs have the same culture as the Poles, who are definitely part of Western Europe.

Ottomans were just one of many invaders on our lands. Just one of them who retreated

Serbians survived all of them

king polkakamon:
A Serb still mourning the loss of Holstein and Brandenburg to Germanics.

it is because invaders humiliated us after the defeat. It was their cardinal mistake
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 Jun 10, 10, 23:59    #5
Crow:
Serbians survived all of them

but also had your blood mixed with each..
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Edited by: Crow  Jun 11, 10, 20:53    #6
plk123:
but also had your blood mixed with each..

when we Serbs say that we survived we don`t point on physical survivor. One can survive physically but actually be dead.

survivor means that Serbians survived as living pictures of their ancestors, that they survived genetically, that they survived ethnically as Serbs and Slavs.

this is how Polish Wislawa Szymborska and Austrian Alex Landragin described their traveling all over the Balkan and Serbia >>>

The first thing I noticed about the people was how fit and tanned they looked, and how much flesh they showed compared to the Turks. In this sense, they reminded me of my own Australian compatriots. People jogging and cycling, playing tennis, men who evidently worked out, women with impossibly long legs.

after all, many people coming to EXIT music festival in Serbia (only from Britain there is 20.000 tourists every year). Many strangers coming, as they say, to enjoy in beauty of typical Slavic beautiful girls

many are witnesses of Serbian survivor.



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