Future of Kaliningrad Oblast

Czarnkow1940Threads: 11 Posts: 167 Joined: Mar 5, 10 ♂	Mar 22, 10, 08:36 #1
What is the future of Kaliningrad Oblast will it remain a exclave of Russia returned to Germany,annex by either Lithuania or Poland or became a independent country which is most likely. http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=105089 http://kaliningrad-eu.blogspot.com/

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Mar 22, 10, 09:14 #2
A link to Stromfront? Is that where you spend your time? On a neo-Nazi site? Trying to bring down the level of discussion to rednecks playing Nazis level? Go away.

Czarnkow1940Threads: 11 Posts: 167 Joined: Mar 5, 10 ♂	Mar 22, 10, 11:05 #3
1jola: A link to Stromfront? Is that where you spend your time? On a neo-Nazi site? I dont spend my time on neo Nazi websites i i just come across on google when searching for information about Kaliningrad i didnt know it that it a neo-nazi site it just happened to have a good post about Kaliningrads future im sorry if i offended you in any way.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Mar 22, 10, 11:07 #4
Czarnkow1940: I dont spend my time on neo Nazi websites i i just come across on google when searching for information about Kaliningrad i didnt know it that it a neo-nazi site it just happened to have a good post about Kaliningrads future im sorry if i offended you in any way. What, the large graphic on the left side saying "WHITE PRIDE WORLD WIDE" wasn't a big enough clue for you, Nazi-boy?

Czarnkow1940Threads: 11 Posts: 167 Joined: Mar 5, 10 ♂	Mar 22, 10, 11:15 #5
delphiandomine: What, the large graphic on the left side saying "WHITE PRIDE WORLD WIDE" wasn't a big enough clue for you, Nazi-boy? No i didnt see that as being a nazi and I dont see how it is racist arent you aloud to be proud it your white I have seen numerous that say black pride but when you mention white your seen as racist or nazi.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Mar 22, 10, 12:54 #6
Czarnkow1940: when you mention white your seen as racist or nazi. Mentioning? hardly. It is an extremist site. Stormfront is a white nationalist and supremacist[1] neo-Nazi[2] Internet forum that has been described as the Internet's first major hate site. Wiki

SokratesThreads: 19 Posts: 4,464 Joined: Jan 19, 09 ♂ [Suspended]	Mar 22, 10, 13:49 #7
Czarnkow1940: What is the future of Kaliningrad Oblast will it remain a exclave of Russia returned to Germany,annex by either Lithuania or Poland or became a independent country which is most likely. GTFO son, this is no place for Stormfront and its readers.

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Edited by: joepilsudski Mar 22, 10, 15:37 #8

Future will depend on it's use as a political bargaining chip for Russia, and on further development in Russian-German relations...Neither Poland nor Lithuania will annex it...The people there may be quite happy with things just as they are.

As for 'Stormfront', why the hub-bub?...It is just another Internet 'char room' and many of the posters or postings are 'ringers' or phony...You will also read intelligent posts there.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Mar 22, 10, 17:08 #9
joepilsudski: You will also read intelligent posts there. Self-praise is no praise at all.

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Mar 22, 10, 17:12 #10

joepilsudski:

As for 'Stormfront', why the hub-bub?...

Because they're a bunch of neo-nazi c*nts.

joepilsudski:

It is just another Internet 'char room'

F*ck yeah so is axis history forums, so are other covertly neo-nazi and symphatetic shyteholes.

joepilsudski:

You will also read intelligent posts there.

Yeah if you look for hours, otherwise its still a craphole populated by lobotomized monkeys who couldnt get a decent life so they blame it on everything but themselves.

aphrodisiacThreads: 22 Posts: 3,998 Joined: Apr 15, 09 ♀	Mar 22, 10, 17:17 #11
Sokrates: Yeah if you look for hours, otherwise its still a craphole populated by lobotomized monkeys who couldnt get a decent life so they blame it on everything but themselves. you get enough of that on PF, no?

SokratesThreads: 19 Posts: 4,464 Joined: Jan 19, 09 ♂ [Suspended]	Mar 22, 10, 17:19 #12
aphrodisiac: you get enough of that on PF, no? Only when reading foreigners and even then only some, the few Poles here are sensible, bar JoePiłsudski and Grubas.

NathanThreads: 33 Posts: 1,846 Joined: Feb 13, 09 ♂	Mar 22, 10, 17:26 #13
Sokrates: lobotomized monkey who couldnt get a decent life I have never read a better self-description.

jarnowaThreads: 5 Posts: 800 Joined: Nov 21, 09 ♂	Mar 22, 10, 17:53 #14
SeanBM: It is an extremist site. just because it has some neonazi members? enough of them are against multiculturalism, but not neonazi whatsoever, so nothing wrong with linking to stormfront.

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Mar 22, 10, 18:15 #15

Czarnkow1940:

What is the future of Kaliningrad Oblast will it remain a exclave of Russia returned to Germany,annex by either Lithuania or Poland or became a independent country which is most likely.

I'm afraid I can't put forward my prediction about the future of "oblast" but the option "became an independent country" I would place in the bottom of the list without a moment's hesitation.
That act of protest against another putin's fosterling (Boos) and putin's power in general is quite often thing in today's Russia. I may take part in such a protest, however that doesn't automatically mean I want Moscow to be an independent country.
As for linking to SF... I wouldn't consider that source reliable enough to take into account. Besides, opinion of extreme leftists/rightists doesn't reflect the one of society on the whole.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Mar 22, 10, 18:17 #16
jarnowa: just because it has some neonazi members? Are you a neonazi Jarnowa? And yes, I consider neonazis extremists. jarnowa: enough of them are against multiculturalism, but not neonazi whatsoever, so nothing wrong with linking to stormfront. So if they are against multiculturalism and not against neonazis, that's okay?

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Edited by: jonni Mar 22, 10, 18:21 #17
SeanBM: Are you a neonazi Jarnowa? Read his posts. They are all about race. SeanBM: So if they are against multiculturalism and not against neonazis, that's okay? Linking to Stormfront is disreputable and offensive, perhaps the Mods should remove the link.

aligator_sThreads: 1 Posts: 136 Joined: Jan 7, 08 ♂	Mar 22, 10, 18:39 #18
Hitler's syphallatic dream only became a reality because he could control the press and here you all are condemning freedom of speech the irony is amusing to say the least as for Kalingrad, I cannot see the Ruskies giving up sovereign territory if they have any sense they will organise a public referendum, spin it off as a seperate country and apply for EU membership.

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Edited by: SeanBM Mar 22, 10, 18:57 #19

aligator_s:

here you all are condemning freedom of speech

Who is?

Pointing out that the source is taken from a very well known white nationalist, supremacist, neo-Nazi hate site is very relevant on a Polish forum.

aligator_s:

if they have any sense they will organise a public referendum, spin it off as a seperate country and apply for EU membership.

I would say, if they had any control...
Which I don't believe they do.

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Mar 22, 10, 19:15 #20

SeanBM:

Self-praise is no praise at all.

You talkin' to me?...I'm not registered on their forum, and I don't post there, but I do sometimes read posts there when they come up on a 'search'.

BUT, here is an interesting page concerning WWII propaganda from another POV...Scroll down to the end of the page to read some comments by famous people about Hitler...None of them 'neo-nazis'...Or, perhaps they were!

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/roundone.htm

Anyway, what does this have to do with Kaliningrad?

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Mar 22, 10, 19:22 #21

joepilsudski:

You talkin' to me?...I'm not registered on their forum, and I don't post there, but I do sometimes read posts there when they come up on a 'search'.

I thought you were a member because you have quoted from StormFront before.

joepilsudski:

comments by famous people about Hitler

Hitler was a great statesman he brought Germany from starvation to almost taking over Europe and more but he was also a complete jerk.

joepilsudski:

Anyway, what does this have to do with Kaliningrad?

I think there are two separate discussions on this particular forum.

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Edited by: joepilsudski Mar 22, 10, 19:40 #22

SeanBM:

Hitler was a great statesman he brought Germany from starvation to almost taking over Europe and more but he was also a complete jerk.

Oh, I don't think Hitler was a great statesman; I think he was a puppet...As far as Germany, what were the fruits of his work?...8 million Germans dead or homeless, maybe more?...And a cyanide pill for his wife, and a bullet in his own head?...But a lot of famous people seemed to
be impressed by him...Perhaps he was charming personally to some...I'm not impressed by 'Uncle Joe' either, nor Churchill...But, again, I never met them personally :-)

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Edited by: SeanBM Mar 22, 10, 19:42 #23
joepilsudski: I think he was a puppet. Let me guess, for the Jews? Call it a hunch but I have yet to see your theories involve anyone else. joepilsudski: .As far as Germany, what were the fruits of his work?...8 million Germans dead or homeless, maybe more?...And a cyanide pill for his wife, and a bullet in his own head?... I also said he was a complete jerk.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Mar 22, 10, 19:59 #24
SeanBM: Let me guess, for the Jews? Shapeshifting Rothechilds no doubt.

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Mar 22, 10, 20:08 #25

SeanBM: 'Jew puppet?'

For the bankers, some in the US, some in UK, some in Germany, some Jewish bankers too...Also for German industialists, Krupp, Farben...Their support, along with certain reactionary Prussians put Hitler in power.

There is quite a bit of circumstantial evidence that Hitler was part Jewish himself, along with many of his associates, both on higher and lower levels...Among the top Nazis this would include Eichmann, Heydrich, Rosenberg and others...His doctor, Morrell, there is much debate about...I would highly recommend Hennecke Kardel's book about Hitler...You can download it for free online...

The Nazis had a working relationship with the Zionists to colonize Palestine...This is an undeniable historic fact...Read 'The Transfer Agreement' a very mainstream book about this subject...In fact, the only flag allowed to be flown in Germany during that era was the Israeli flag, flown at special agricultural training camps the Germans set up for prospective Jewish emmigrants to Palestine...Also, the Muslim Mustafa of Jerusalem, who was Yasser Arafat's uncle, lived in Berlin for nearly two years in the early 40s pleading with the Germans to take Palestine with Arab assistance, from the British, as the Arabs didn't want the Jews there...Hitler said 'Absolutely no.'

In the end, Banker's puppet, Rothschild puppet, Illuminati puppet.

king polkagamon	Mar 23, 10, 00:13 #26
I got a new girlfriend in Kaliningrad.So hands off till I visit the place.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Mar 23, 10, 01:11 #27
king polkagamon: I got a new girlfriend in Kaliningrad. Of course you have....YAWN...!

Czarnkow1940Threads: 11 Posts: 167 Joined: Mar 5, 10 ♂	Mar 23, 10, 05:28 #28
joepilsudski Thats exactly what i do lol

skysoulmateThreads: 41 Posts: 3,039 Joined: Jan 10, 10 ♂	Edited by: skysoulmate Mar 23, 10, 06:22 #29
Czarnkow1940: i didnt know it that it a neo-nazi site it just happened to have a good post about Kaliningrads future im sorry if i offended you in any way. Really? Based on some of your and Joe's previous anti-Jewish posts I'm thinking you two are regulars on that site...

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Mar 23, 10, 06:38 #30

skysoulmate:

Really? Based on some of your and Joe's previous anti-Jewish posts I'm thinking you two are regular on that site...

I dont like nazi or jews they have both caused problems for Poland in the past.Do you think its alright for jews to blame poles for the holocaust when it wasn't there fault at all and then lie about the amount of jews killed so the look like the only victims and try to collect compensation from Poland im sorry if i offended you but that's why i don't like jews .

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