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 Nov 10, 10, 00:49    #61
Harry:
So in reality a 'mission' is less than a 'sortie'.


:))


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Flax
From that point on missions consisted of three P-40 Squadrons covered by one Spitfire squadron
a mission, four squadrons, less than one sortie, 'in reality'.

http://www.31stfightergroup.com/historical_31st/wwii309fs.html

For their second mission of the day the 309th flew with Nos. 81 and 131 squadrons

A mission, three squadrons, which is less than one aircraft, 'in reality'.


During the last mission of the day the squadron intercepted 7 FW-190s

A mission ('less that one aircraft') intercepting 7 Fockewulfs. 'In reality' :)



Harry in reality. Carry on, boy. :)
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 Nov 10, 10, 02:08    #62
Harry:
Certainly "I was a Navigator in the 455th Bomb Group 15th AAF stationed at a former country estate called San Giovanni a few miles outside of Cerignola, Italy from January to July 1944 when I finished my "50 mission" tour with 35 combat "sorties" (15 of them were considered "doubles")."

That example doesn not explain a whole lot. It does suggest though that there can be one sortie used for multiple missions. For instance, a plane takes off, bombs city A (first mission), on its way back, via a different route, takes aerial photographs of an area (second mission).

But why complicate it?
The definition is clear and simple:

Sortie is a term for deployment or dispatch of one military unit, be it an aircraft, ship, or troops from a strongpoint. The sortie, whether by one or more aircraft or vessels, usually has a specific mission.

source

Hence, there can be a sortie without a mission, but there cannot be a mission without at least one sortie. A group of planes, say 10, participate in the same mission. That one, single mission required 10 sorties.

Ergo, the alleged "hundreds" of missions the Brits flew to try to help the Warsaw Uprising is hogwash.

Please get back on topic or start a new thread
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Edited by: z_darius  Nov 10, 10, 02:54    #63
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Please get back on topic or start a new thread

A little late with this comment. It was due a few posts before mine.

Oh, and thank you for the swift action.
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 Nov 26, 10, 18:46    #64
Polonius3:
The ghetto rising is mroe widely publicised in schoolbooks in the West. Why is it that a rising which covered only a fraction of the city's area, was much shorter and claimed far fewer lives is better known than the 1944 upheaval?


Why you think?...Jews were involved in the one...Jews run the media, and are powerful in controlling educational materials.


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