Heil Poland!.....?

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07 ♂	Edited by: ConstantineK Jun 2, 10, 20:37 #91
Mr Grunwald: cause the one starting this thread about Polish "Nazi's" is a Russian imperialist :) Yes, I am, why I cannot?

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Jun 2, 10, 20:45 #92
Ah, that imperial Russia. If you kacapy would only have a sense of rythm. LOL

mmwhatThreads: - Posts: 6 Joined: Jun 2, 10 ♂	Jun 2, 10, 23:00 #93
1jola: If you kacapy That's very mature and developed, young man. Very-very intelligent.

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Jun 2, 10, 23:07 #94
I'm hardly a young man but have you read this thread? Read the OP and tell me why is ConstantineK here? You might want to have a chat with him and not me.

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Edited by: mmwhat Jun 2, 10, 23:07 #95

All you have to understand is that Russian population is diverse even if your propaganda tells you Russians are drunk, angry, imperialist. No they aren't. Of course there is a lot of bydlo, hopefully its numbers will reduce.

The minimal thing you can do to prove your intelligence and "Europeanity" is not to biased about every Russian. That's chauvinism, chaps. The worst kind of it is common chauvinism while working or performing any kind of trade, paperwork that involves Russians. Some of you can't even talk to a person if they say they're from Russia, even if before the conversation was nice.
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1jola of course I've read it. I've just been called kacap today because.. because I am Russian. And those were young people, Polish future. Reading or hearing this word I imagine a moustached Western Ukrainian nationalist having a chub-hairstyle, wearing SS signs.

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Edited by: 1jola Jun 2, 10, 23:16 #96

mmwhat:

Some of you can't even talk to a person if they say they're from Russia, even if before the conversation was nice.

We are talking, aren't we? Read the Original Post and get back to me with your opinion then.

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mmwhat:

I've just been called kacap today because.. because I am Russian. And those were young people, Polish future.

That's regrettable. I won't call you names if you don't post flamming threads, deal?

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Jun 3, 10, 10:34 #97

I'm not a flamer or a flooder, so of course yes.
That fact hurted me somehow, mainly because while I was learning some basic Polish online I got many positive comments on my attempts from native speakers, so I formed an image of an average Pole as a friendly person. Then again, did they see in my profile there that I'm from Russia? Hmm. I hope they don't mind it.

From what I heard or read, I guess that's how modern young "patriotism" groups teach young people to think about Russians. I don't know whether those organisations official or underground extreme right-wing packs. In Russia there are stupid youth organisations too, "nashi" and other crap.

My message to anyone from Russia and Poland: please, save your ethnical slur and propaganda polemic for another day, try to think of a Pole/Russian as of an equal individual (after all, genetically we are distant relatives). How stupid is that: avoid communication and be aggressive towards a person you thought was nice, before they disclosed their nationality.

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Edited by: Mr Grunwald Jun 3, 10, 11:03 #98

ConstantineK:

Yes, I am, why I cannot?

Somebody asked why Poles get so "attacking" here, I answered because it was created&continued by an RUssian Imperialist what ever his (yours) motives are they would look at it as "Russian propaganda trying to put down Poland"
So if it was an stupid-non knowing Westerner (probably an American , talking out of experience not stereotype) most wouldn't been that attacking, but more explaining on why it is happening and etc.

It's like when a cat steals a dog's fish (he can rightly do so right? Because fish is typical cat's food right? but the fish is still the dog's)

So when after the 1000 time the cat tried to steal the dog's fish and asks how is the fish tasting out of pure curiosity you shouldn't be so surprised that the dog thinks "Oh he tries to steal my fish again"

Still a Cat can be a Cat and a Dog can be a Dog
and the Cat has all the right to get himself some food it's just about "how" he/she does it :)

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Jun 3, 10, 11:10 #99

I hope ConstantineK is reading your message.

mmwhat:

From what I heard or read, I guess that's how modern young "patriotism" groups teach young people to think about Russians. I don't know whether those organisations official or underground extreme right-wing packs.

Official youth organizations that are patriotic are the Scouts. If you chat with them, you will see that patriotism has nothing to do with prejudice. Germans, Russians, Ukrainians are not our enemies. In fact, at the moment we don't have any enemies, except some of our own politicians. My take on what you are experiencing is that some young people would be more friendly talking with a dumb Englishman than an intelligent Russian. Very superficial. Of course, if you start argueing that Russians freed us from the Germans, you can expect hostility.

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Jun 3, 10, 17:09 #100

1jola:

if you start argueing that Russians freed us from the Germans, you can expect hostility

Well, let me tell you why is this opinion present. It is told so on Russian history lessons and still popular Soviet-era patriotic books about WWII. I understand they didn't exactly give Poland freedom, they and allies scared Nazi troops off, then allies left and communists installed pro-soviet governments in many countries. They maybe saved physical lives of individuals but they got Poland "to pay" for it by being communist. And they didn't hesitate to keep the power (Czechoslovakia, 1968 and Poland, 1981-83). Those old crazy men thought they were going to change the world but their version of Socialism was kinda perverted.

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Jun 3, 10, 17:24 #101

mmwhat:

Well, let me tell you why is this opinion present. It is told so on Russian history lessons and still popular Soviet-era patriotic books about WWII. I understand they didn't exactly give Poland freedom, they and allies scared Nazi troops off, then allies left and communists installed pro-soviet governments in many countries. They maybe saved physical lives of individuals but they got Poland "to pay" for it by being communist. And they didn't hesitate to keep the power (Czechoslovakia, 1968 and Poland, 1981-83). Those old crazy men thought they were going to change the world but their version of Socialism was kinda perverted.

Well I guess Sasha went through those same books but I don't call him "Ruski" or "Kacap" I can't recall doing so atleast. While I wouldn't been shocked if I did so with ConstantineK. I generally don't like Prussian lovers and Russian imperialists (BB is an exception)

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