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 Dec 23, 09, 12:32    #241
joepilsudski:
Both he and Hall declare 'masonry' a religion...Why you have a 'temple' if no religion or sacrifice carried out?...Aztecs have temples, Hindus have temples, ancient Israelites & Egytians have 'temples'...You have temple to the devil, simple.

You really are a complete moron: pretty much the only qualification (other than being a man) for becoming a mason is that one needs to be religious. It doesn't matter which religion but if you do not believe in a supreme being you can not join. And yes I do know what I am talking about from personal experience.

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Edited by: PlasticPole  Dec 23, 09, 17:03    #242
joepilsudski:
Listen, the pyramid with the eye got on the dollar bill because of Henry Wallace, a powerful member of Franklin D. Rosenfeld's clique...Look it up...Both he and Rosenfeld were high degree Freemasons...

Well, there ya go. It's a Freemason thing. The zodiac symbols and the pentagrams are, too. They discussed all this esoteric stuff, combining it with science. At one time theology and science were these weird conjoined twins. They weren't exactly helping each other so surgeons seperated them. Some people are trying to fuse them back together again using creationism as their surgical glue, but it's not going to look as good as it did before they were seperated.
I am not saying the symbols originated with the Freemasons, they go back to Sumeria, in some cases, at the least, Ancient Babylon. Because of the Freemasons dabbling in it, they found their way onto the White House, the dollar bill, the sewer systems of towns like Boston and Philidelphia. You think a Puritan would put that stuff on the buildings and money? Nah, they would call it devil worship and brand anyone who talks about it witches and warlocks. You would have been burned at the stake or hung for that.
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Edited by: joepilsudski  Dec 24, 09, 17:22    #243
Harry:
You really are a complete moron: pretty much the only qualification (other than being a man) for becoming a mason is that one needs to be religious. It doesn't matter which religion but if you do not believe in a supreme being you can not join. And yes I do know what I am talking about from personal experience.


That's nice Harry, but the 'supreme being' can be the Devil...Just like you go to AA/NA, you 'surrender to your higher power'...

This does not mean all Masons are Satanists...I have never said this...However, we have a curious chain of events in history where these Freemasons seem to be behind every violent revolution in the past few centuries...American revolution, french revolution, Napoleanic wars, WWI, Bolsheviks, WWII...Freemasons leading players in all these...'Order Out of Chaos'...But whose order?...Coincidence?

This is why you have degrees of Masonry...You may say, 'all is allegory and ceremony'...I would disagree...You practice certain rituals, certain ceremonies, you undergo a transformation...The Masons will readily admit this...Now, some initiates merely go through a play acting...I practice guitar for 30 years, go through various courses of study, involing learning theory, physically practicing, studying a certain culture, and certain disciplines...What is the reult of this?...Well, I become a guitarist, a musician...I have been transformed.

Some take it more seriously than others...But what the real function of the Lodge is, aside from the 'religious initiation rites', is to function as a network of connected people...This allows for deals to be made, for certain events to be facilitated...The Lodge is international, although each one has it's own governing body...So you have a network...As in any network, you will have good and bad elements...But, since one is a member of the 'chosen', he is protected from certain scrutiny by his 'brothers' in the Lodge...No?

PlasticPole:
Well, there ya go. It's a Freemason thing. The zodiac symbols and the pentagrams are, too. They discussed all this esoteric stuff, combining it with science. At one time theology and science were these weird conjoined twins. They weren't exactly helping each other so surgeons seperated them. Some people are trying to fuse them back together again using creationism as their surgical glue, but it's not going to look as good as it did before they were seperated.
I am not saying the symbols originated with the Freemasons, they go back to Sumeria, in some cases, at the least, Ancient Babylon. Because of the Freemasons dabbling in it, they found their way onto the White House, the dollar bill, the sewer systems of towns like Boston and Philidelphia. You think a Puritan would put that stuff on the buildings and money? Nah, they would call it devil worship and brand anyone who talks about it witches and warlocks. You would have been burned at the stake or hung for that.

Well said.
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 Dec 24, 09, 17:27    #244
joepilsudski:
...I have never said this...However, we have a curious chain of events in history where these Freemasons seem to be behind every violent revolution in the past few centuries...

Joe, the problem is, you've been spoiled by freedom. You have never lived in a time where you couldn't say what you wanted. You have never experienced forced allegience to a king or queen. You have never been in a situation where soldiers have knocked down your door and taken your house and food. You don't know what cruel and unusual punishment is. During these 'violent revolutions' you had desperate people who wanted to be free of all these things and were determined to do anything to achieve it. They were that desperate. You have never needed to be that way, thanks to them.
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Edited by: joepilsudski  Dec 24, 09, 17:34    #245
PlasticPole:
oe, the problem is, you've been spoiled by freedom. You have never lived in a time where you couldn't say what you wanted. You have never experienced forced allegience to a king or queen. You have never been in a situation where soldiers have knocked down your door and taken your house and food. You don't know what cruel and unusual punishment is. During these 'violent revolutions' you had desperate people who wanted to be free of all these things and were determined to do anything to achieve it. They were that desperate. You have never needed to be that way, thanks to them.


Now, I agree with you here, and this is why I don't condemn all Masons, because some of the philosophy was in reaction to these corrupt monarchies you talk of, and even the tyranny of the Church...In times of crisis, you need a secure place where you make plans...This was one positive function of the Lodge...However, in times of relative peace it was also used for more nefarious purposes, to create chaos.

BrutalButcher:
I am sure you´re a fan of Alex Jones.

No...I think he is a blowhard who sells fear to people...Some of his information is correct, and he will occasionally have very good guests...He is what is called 'controlled opposition'...Plus, from my experience working with mental health patients, I believe he may have a bi-polar disorder, or manic/depression.
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 Dec 24, 09, 17:49    #246
cheehaw:
..Then the Jews of Salonika {1} through their Committee of Union and Progress, and meetings in Freemasonic lodges, there was a man named Emmanuel Carraso who was the grand master of the Macedonian Resort lodge in Salonika, and they drew funding [for their revolution] through Italian banking Jews and ultimately through the Rothschild bankers of the city of London, fomented a revolution against the Sultan which began I think in June of 1908, and they finally deposed the Sultan in 1909 and they then started committing heinous atrocities against Christians in the Balkans and specially against the Armenians (the 1909 Cilicia massacres, the Constantinople massacres) in order to use that as cause for the Christians to want to wage war against the Turkish empire and that resulted in the Balkans wars and then the Balkan wars resulted in world war one, and in WWI the leaders of the Young Turks were actually crypto-Jews from Salonika and chief of those was Tallat Pasha, and Tallat Pasha (who was a front man for the Zionists) instituted a program for the extermination of the Armenians in order to bring America and England into the region as the Christian savior of the Armenians. And they also attacked Russia because Russia had traditionally been a strong defender, specially of the true Christians, in the Turkish empire. And in this way they were able to foment the first world war...

Excellent information regarding the 'Young Turks', the Armenian genocide and the involvement of the FreeMasons and Donmeh Jews.
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 Dec 28, 09, 18:24    #247
I am still waiting for someone/anyone to comment on this eloquent display of jewish hubris:


Why Torah obligates all Jews in this campaign:

"...according to the known Jewish ruling that Christians are idol worshippers." (Likkutei Sichos 37:198)

A gentile...is liable for the death penalty...if he has invented a religious holiday for himself...The general principle is we do not allow them to make new religious rituals and to make 'mitzvahs' for themselves by their own devices.

http://www.noahide.com/infiltration/xmas.htm


Surely if the same sort of idea were presented from an arab, german or christian point of view, suggesting that jews should be given the death penalty for creating false jewish customs, teaching racist talmudic ideas, falsely claiming semitic ancestry, falsely claiming a land of their 'inheritance' that was never their ancestors' to begin with, making false claims that they are God's chosen, performing pagan egyptian religious rituals within their kaballah, or claiming false hasidic messiahs, there would be outrage.
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 Dec 28, 09, 18:38    #248
ACcording to Cheehaw´s posts all Christians are anti-semitic, ************** idiots. Happy?
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Edited by: PlasticPole  Dec 28, 09, 19:07    #249
Christians are anti-semitic, ************** idiots.

No. A lot of them are fake and hypocritical, though. A lot of them listen to the sermon while in church but haven't got the first clue about how to put all that into real life practice so what they do is shout the gospel to everyone, whether they want to hear it or not. I would rather them give money to the poor than do that.
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 Dec 29, 09, 11:56    #250
cheehaw:
I am still waiting for someone/anyone to comment on this eloquent display of jewish hubris:

I'll give her a reply. Not that she deserves one, but the others in this forum might want to know that Cheechaw is being dishonest, misrepresenting things to fit her anti-Jewish agenda. The site she quotes and links to is a crackpot site of a group called "Hassidic Gentiles". So first of all it's not "Jewish Hubris" but some gentile who has a screw loose (missing a few marbles, not dealing with full deck). The "group" probably consists of one guy who made himself a website and is not Jewish. The Habad movement, which he claims to follow, disowns them, as he himself says.

It's always dangerous when a non-Jew who knows little about our religion starts to preach to others and says it's Judaism. Anyone who uses a site like that as a source is either stupid, evil or both.
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 Dec 30, 09, 13:54    #251
"Hassidic Gentiles".

He,he. Good one.
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 Dec 30, 09, 16:21    #252
yehudi:
The site she quotes and links to is a crackpot site of a group called "Hassidic Gentiles". So first of all it's not "Jewish Hubris" but some gentile who has a screw loose (missing a few marbles, not dealing with full deck). The "group" probably consists of one guy who made himself a website and is not Jewish. The Habad movement, which he claims to follow, disowns them, as he himself says.

It's always dangerous when a non-Jew who knows little about our religion starts to preach to others and says it's Judaism. Anyone who uses a site like that as a source is either stupid, evil or both.

Well now at least I know you really are a moron. You could have at least read the 'About Us' page where it says:

About Us

Jews and Hasidic Gentiles—United to Save America (JAHG-USA) is a national Jewish and Hasidic gentile outreach organization headquartered in southern California. We follow the teachings of the Lubavitcher Rebbeim with our programs and activities, creating a worldwide Hasidic gentile ("Noahide") movement that will bring the Messiah in this generation. In addition to maintaining this Web site, we pursue a variety of activities to educate people around the world about the Seven Universal Laws, the proper relationship of non-Jews with G-d and with the Jewish people, the need for Torah-centered outreach to non-Jews, and the urgent need to participate in the war against the worldwide revolution of Amalek.

http://www.noahide.com/aboutus.htm


The organization disagrees with you about their jewish roots and their gentile outreach program. It's a gentile outreach program run by jews. Jews who want gentiles to be 'hasidic' gentiles. Maybe you could take some literary comprehension courses or something, yehudi.

I was wondering though, why a jewish group would focus on things like a death penalty for gentiles but ignore the fact that 90% of so-called 'jews' are athiests. Should they be desiring a death penalty for that population first? Holidays were never once mentioned by God to Noah.. maybe we could switch it around a bit to say.. A jew...is liable for the death penalty...if he has invented a god for himself..
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 Dec 30, 09, 18:13    #253
cheehaw:
Jews and Hasidic Gentiles—United to Save America (JAHG-USA) is a national Jewish and Hasidic gentile outreach organization

Sure. And he wouldn't lie would he? The only name of a person included on the site is someone named Boruch Bryan Ellison. If you google him all you get is his own site and weird anti-semitic sites that quote him. That's probably how a bottom-feeder like you found him. My guess is that he's not Jewish at all. Rest assured that whoever the hell he is, he is no more of a Jewish leader than you are.
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Edited by: Moderator  Dec 30, 09, 23:51    #254
yeah I'm a bottom feeder all right.

Just like the hundreds of rabbis on this list that have signed petitions for JAHG-USA.

Rabbi Eli Abadie Edmond J. Safra Synagogue New York, NY 8/13/08 (in person) refused 8/24/08
Rabbi Avraham Abish Bais Avrohom D’Krula — Spinka Brooklyn, NY 7/1/09 (in person) refused 7/1/09
Rabbi Shlomo Adelman Exec. Dir., Yeshiva of Staten Island Staten Island, NY 1/4/06 (in person) refused 1/4/06
Rabbi Chayim Boruch Alevsky Chabad Plano, TX 11/18/06 (in person) signed 11/18/06

cont . -> http://www.plo.attacreport.com/response_list.php?procl_num=1


that is just a short list I pasted above because there are hundreds of signatures.

You truly are a moron, yehudi. admit it. Can't find your own nose in the mirror. or the item you are discussing at google.

They should give computer lessons at Yeshiva instead of just talmud lessons. Seems your brain needs exercise.

less of the insults, please.
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 Dec 31, 09, 10:19    #255
Listen, computer genius, your link is not about the so called "Hassidic Gentiles" but a petition they (he?) circulated against funding of the PLO. So of course many rabbis would sign that without knowing that this guy is a looney antichristmasite. But what you didn't understand is that the list of samples you gave is mostly rabbis who refused to sign. Look at your list. It says "refused" after three of the names you listed. You can assume that their refusal is not because they love the PLO but because they never heard of this guy or his "organization".

But keep fishing the internet for crackpots and anti-jewish filth. I'm sure there are many like you at the bottom of the internet.
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 Dec 31, 09, 11:05    #256
cheehaw:
Rabbi Eli Abadie Edmond J. Safra Synagogue New York, NY 8/13/08 (in person) refused 8/24/08
Rabbi Avraham Abish Bais Avrohom D’Krula — Spinka Brooklyn, NY 7/1/09 (in person) refused 7/1/09
Rabbi Shlomo Adelman Exec. Dir., Yeshiva of Staten Island Staten Island, NY 1/4/06 (in person) refused 1/4/06

Cheehaw, you do know why it says "refused" after these three? It's because they refused to sign it. Did you think that all the rabbis on the list signed the petition?
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 Dec 31, 09, 11:17    #257
Cicho,

If you don't recognize that this guy is a crackpot, then you haven't gained the skill, and I don't want to say maturity, to discern who is sane and who is not. Your area of interest is leading you nowhere, although it is making you angry, not a good position for rational thought.

Not to pick on Joe in particular, but the time he spends tracking conspiracies has left him little time to understand Polish history, and as a Polish-American, I would say that should be of interest to him. I contribute the nonsense he can mention about Poland's role in WWII to the websites he participates in, like NOLAJBS. A few years back, when LF was still running, it was fun to discuss all the conspiracies as there were many Jews, militant Jews, neo-Nazis, communists, Peak Oil freaks, and many smart people voicing their opinions on a forum with no breaks. It is gone and so is the balance of opinion. Joe, I know you are secretly sipping Mouton Cadet :)

Back to you. Sites like Judicial are worthless in content. Ok, maybe fun to look at once in a while but the info is garbage, just like Skunk's(owner) habit to photoshop bigger noses on Jews. I strongly suggest a library card.

"Hassidic gentiles" should be your first clue to walk away.
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 Dec 31, 09, 12:34    #258
instead of venting your twisted sense of purpose here, why not try reading, you watch these films and think your a historian, i have to tell you guys " its not real" you will believe in santa next and argue that point here too.
get a grip folks
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 Dec 31, 09, 16:41    #259
1jola:
If you don't recognize that this guy is a crackpot, then you haven't gained the skill, and I don't want to say maturity, to discern who is sane and who is not.

Really, you are wrong about this one.. The JAHG-USA website is sponsored by the Chabad Lubavitch group, which is a really big organization of orthodox jews.

One of their main websites is here

http://lubavitch.com/

You can search any country/state for a list of their meeting places, this is a rather large organization and they are promoting the above views, and promoting them widely. They even have a group which meets in Warsaw.

Essentially, they believe that jews should rule all nations under Talmudic law, and that their role is to teach non-jews how to behave.

The Lubavitch group even got President Bush to write certain parts of this into law, in Public Law 102-14. So, for crackpots as you claim, they are not doing too badly in their efforts.

The U.S. Congress officially recognized the Noahide Laws in legislation which was passed by both houses. Congress and the President of the United States, George Bush, indicated in Public Law 102-14, 102nd Congress, that the United States of America was founded upon the Seven Universal Laws of Noah, and that these Laws have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization.

http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/7laws.html

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 Dec 31, 09, 18:29    #260
Arthur Koessler already published a book in 1976 called "The Thirteenth Tribe" in which he shows conclusively that they majority of world Jewry, who are Ashkenazi, are descended from the Khazars. Their communities were established in Poland long before any significant numbers of Semitic Jews arrived from the West. Polish historians have known this for quite some time. One fact that bears this out is that the Karaite sect which rejected Rabbinical Judaism never adopted the Yiddish language but still spoke a Turkish dialect at the dawn of the Twentieth century.
Judaism is a religion shared by various ethnicities. Saying they constitute a nation is stupid, and it was done to legitimate the ugly racist colonialism that is Zionism.
We who remember Czestochowa call out to the besieged Gazans. Continue to resist, Poland was lost but not forever, most of you are refugees, but look at our precedent. Continue to resist and eventually you will return and rebuild your homes.
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Edited by: jonni  Dec 31, 09, 18:39    #261
Des Esseintes:
they majority of world Jewry, who are Ashkenazi, are descended from the Khazars.

He may believe that but DNA evidence proves otherwise. Koestler was proved wrong, the theory has been totally, absolutely and completely discredited. The Khazar myth used to be put about by racial theorists for disingenuous reasons. Now you only tend to hear about it on dodgy websites and by anti-semitic middle-eastern polemicists.

Here's a good quote about it: "He is dropping manufactured facts into a world that in many cases is ready, willing, and happy to believe the absolute worst conspiracy theories about Jews and to use those conspiracy theories to justify physically hurting Jews. ... It is nothing new ... We [the Jews] survived."

Des Esseintes:
Saying they constitute a nation is stupid

So what do you believe constitutes a nation? A group of people with shared cultural values is the usual definition. Jewish people fit that definition.

Des Esseintes:
We who remember Czestochowa call out to the besieged Gazans.

"Call out" and do what?

Des Esseintes:
most of you are refugees

Codswallop!
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Edited by: PlasticPole  Dec 31, 09, 18:48    #262
cheehaw:
Really, you are wrong about this one.. The JAHG-USA website is sponsored by the Chabad Lubavitch group, which is a really big organization of orthodox jews.

One thing that's kind of strange are these people who appear to be Rabbis, and might even be, with televangelistic shows reaching out to Christians.
The sad thing is, they are all looking for funding. It seems like all they want is megabucks and they will do what it takes to get it. Same with Christian televangelists.
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 Dec 31, 09, 19:47    #263
PlasticPole:
One thing that's kind of strange are these people who appear to be Rabbis, and might even be, with televangelistic shows reaching out to Christians.
The sad thing is, they are all looking for funding. It seems like all they want is megabucks and they will do what it takes to get it. Same with Christian televangelists.

You are quite right.
There is a weird tendency among religious nuts to try and draw a line from ancient Hebrews to their own beliefs proving they are the "one", have a look at British Israelites or a more extreme version Ulster Israelites. These idiots are looking for prestige, legitimacy or recognition. A prominent member of the Ulster Israelites was William McGrath of Kincora fame. He was a serial child rapist, terrorist and all round lunatic who was allowed to continue his activities because his paedophile ring included terrorists.

These right wing crazies have nothing to do with Israel or Jews.
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 Dec 31, 09, 19:47    #264
The crackpot JAHG-USA site is not sponsored by Chabad-Lubavitch, which is a legitimate Orthodox Jewish organization that promotes outreach programs to Jews around the world.
The JAHG-USA site is trying to get a free ride on Chabad's following by unauthorized use of their pictures and terminology. The picture of the Rebbe is all over the internet and any one can copy and paste it into their site. You can even put it in this site. That doesn't mean Polish Forums is sponsored by Chabad.
Des Esseintes:
majority of world Jewry, who are Ashkenazi, are descended from the Khazars.

...which puts us in the clear for crucifying Jesus. I knew it!
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 Dec 31, 09, 19:48    #265
I tend to get really cynical when I see people latching on to these ancient places just because they think it will get them instant respect and money. If you want to get money from Christian Protestants, just call yourself an "Israelite". It's ridiculous!
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 Dec 31, 09, 22:08    #266
yehudi:
The crackpot JAHG-USA site is not sponsored by Chabad-Lubavitch, which is a legitimate Orthodox Jewish organization that promotes outreach programs to Jews around the world.
The JAHG-USA site is trying to get a free ride on Chabad's following by unauthorized use of their pictures and terminology. The picture of the Rebbe is all over the internet and any one can copy and paste it into their site. You can even put it in this site. That doesn't mean Polish Forums is sponsored by Chabad.

All you are saying is.. you do not like the JAHG-USA, yes? Well, what difference does it really make then, since they espouse the same values and talmudic propaganda as the Chabad-Lubavitch? The Chabad-Lubavitch are those hasidic groups you see in public buildings trying to take down Christmas trees and nativity scenes and replace them with menorahs. And then you wonder why there is such an increase in 'anti-semitism' around the world... blaming neo-nazis, white-supremacists, or whomever, but completely disregarding the jewish supremacist groups who invite the anti-jewish reaction. They pass out pamphlets stating that non-jews are equal to worms.. exactly what kind of reaction would you expect from the rest of the world? Love? Love is a 2 way street, and many jews appear to only drive one direction on that 2 way street.

jonni:
He may believe that but DNA evidence proves otherwise. Koestler was proved wrong, the theory has been totally, absolutely and completely discredited. The Khazar myth used to be put about by racial theorists for disingenuous reasons. Now you only tend to hear about it on dodgy websites and by anti-semitic middle-eastern polemicists.

That is very debatable.. considering especially that the khazars, as jewish converts, are mentioned numerous times in arab and persian sources from the 9th and 10th centuries or so.. there is nothing on earth that would give reason for those historical arab and persian sources to lie or make these ideas up way back then.

someone put up a pretty good page here about that
http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-diaspora.html

What's not mentioned in that page I linked above.... is that dna evidence in this area is a huge catch 22 for the jews.. it directly pinpoints some of them to sharing dna with the Palestinian arabs.. which tells us.. perhaps they are decended from arab traders.. or hebrewic jews somewhere in the long distant past (and likewise Palestinians are descended from ancient jews).. but more than anything it tells us that the palestinians are truly the original inhabitants of the land today's jews claim (more so then most jews) and were the ones who stayed, defended and maintained that land.. there never really was an exile.. much to the dismay of the jewish population of Israel. So you can argue that if you'd like but most surely along will come another jew claiming no blood relation at all with the Palestinians so that he can declare the Palestinians have no rights and the land of Israel belongs to european jews.
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 Dec 31, 09, 23:12    #267
cheehaw:
The Chabad-Lubavitch are those hasidic groups you see in public buildings trying to take down Christmas trees

Chabad of Warsaw are doing a poor job then. I saw a play last week at the Jewish Theater and there was no menorah but there was a Christmas tree in the lobby. BTW, anyone in Warsaw who would like to see what humor looked like before the war, should see 'Dla Mnie Bomba.' Hilarious. Songs in hebrew, yiddish, and scetches in Polish. Now I know where routines like 'Who's on first?' came from. Szymon Szurmiej, the director and actor, still puts on a performance at the age of 86. He spent time in the GULAG in Kolyma, Siberia.
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 Dec 31, 09, 23:58    #268
The Khazar Jews are not a myth. The qoutation that Jonni gives to refute this fact is naught but a non-sequitor which reveals the the desperate hysterics of those who defend the anachronistic settler colony that is the Zionist entity in Palestine.
Jonni also seems to doubt that most of the Gazans are refugees, if that is what the unfortunate coloquialism "Codswallup" means, and he is wrong here too. Most Gazans are from families forced out of the territory North of Gaza in 1948.
Yes Yehudi the Khazar conversion occurred seven hundred years after Jesus's crucifixion. The Khazar descendents in Palestine today must be held accountable for the torture and murder they have commited upon more modern Palestinians.
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Edited by: cheehaw  Jan 1, 10, 00:13    #269
1jola:
Chabad of Warsaw are doing a poor job then. I saw a play last week at the Jewish Theater and there was no menorah but there was a Christmas tree in the lobby.

yeah, a menorah in the lobby would probably keep too many Catholic Poles away and they need the goyim money.

I only saw one chabad listed in all of Poland, in warsaw. Lots of polish jews came here during WWII, probably all 6 million heh.

There are about 40, maybe 50 chabads just in the state of california here.
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Edited by: 1jola  Jan 1, 10, 01:14    #270
cheehaw:
yeah, a menorah in the lobby would probably keep too many Catholic Poles away and they need the goyim money.

Oh, give it a rest. The theater is next to a large church, which in turn is next to a restaurant called Menorah. It wouldn't matter if there was a bearded guy in a fur hat and a black longcoat at the door, the tickets would still be sold out a month in advance because the performances are good.

The Chabad in Warsaw do their own thing; I never hear of them doing anything controversial here. They ask the President to help them light the candles for Hanukah and that's about it. Sorry that I'm not concerned what they do in Cali. I lived in FL for many years and I know we competed with CA for the duffus award every year, so nothing surprises me. There are lots of people in the States who are against Christmas symbols, period.

How about this:

In an effort to spread some holiday cheer, the Jerusalem Municipality on Wednesday announced that it would be distributing free Christmas trees to the capital's Christian residents in front of the Old City's Jaffa Gate on the morning of Christmas Eve.

a municipality spokesman said, "Just like the municipality pays for hundreds of menoras to go up all over the city during Hanukka, and just like we assist with preparations for Ramadan, we also distribute Christmas trees."

There are people of faith from the world's three major religions living in the city, and we respect them all and want them to enjoy their respective holidays.

Source: JPost


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