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 Dec 21, 09, 20:27    #121
Or this one:




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Edited by: Marek11111  Dec 21, 09, 22:06    #122
thank god that Germans and Russians invaded Poland to put stop to polish concentration camp, it saved so many Jews.
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 Jan 2, 10, 00:06    #123
Marek11111:
thank god that Germans and Russians invaded Poland to put stop to polish concentration camp, it saved so many Jews.

Um...what?
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 Jan 2, 10, 19:18    #124
According to the mighty wikipedia (so it must be true):
Polish historian Władysław Konopczyński has suggested the first concentration camps were actually created in the 18th century, during Bar Confederation, when Russians organized 3 concentration camps in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth for Polish rebel captives, where internees awaited deportation to Siberia. [7]
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Edited by: Trevek  Jan 2, 10, 19:37    #125
sjam:
Although some have argued that the Maze prison holding IRA prisoners became a concentration camp but I am not so sure it was.

irish republicans often refer to the camps set up during the Internment Programme of the early 1970's (Operation Motorman, I believe) as 'concentration camps', which they were in the original sense. The thing is that post 1945 it also has connotations with nazi camps.


caprice49:
Both Ukrainians and Poles are perpetrators and victims simultaneously. They are not the only ones. Alas the Jews too are not blameless. Perhaps we should accept that all nationalities were perpertrators and instead of all this bickering let's have a day where we all apologise to each other for our ancestors acts. Squabbling only increases tension, and recreates hatreds.

It is interesting to note that before 1939 many Polish ethnologists spent a lot of time amongst groups such as the Hutsul and Lemko, showing how they spoke a dialect of polish and were really Polish. Come 1947 and Akcja Wisla, they were classed as speaking a dialect of Ukrainian and transported!

Reading an account of the Soviet writer, Vasily Grossman's experiences as a war correspondence. One of the points he makes is that many Ukrainians joined the nazis because they were seen as liberators from the Soviets (for some, the crosses on the vehicles suggested they were christian liberators against the anti-christ Sovs). He also points out that many Ukrainians (he was from Ukraine) assisted with persecution of Jews (his mother included).

Knowing the Ukrainians and Poles had past issues, it was of no surprise that the nazis let their Ukrainians off the leash to do their dirty work. It would show the 'savagery of slavs', as opposed to the civilised germans (haha!).

Personally, I think an open debate about the roles of all nations should be carried out, in the aim of 'peace and reconsiliation'. easy for me to say, as a brit, because we've never done anything wrong anywhere in the world, have we?
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 Sep 27, 10, 23:30    #126
The enlistment of purely Polish names befuddled the concentration camp guards. What are Polish names doing on this list? they shouted. There should only be Jewish ones. After conducting an investigation into the matter, they found out that many Poles had requested it. Why on Earth would they do that? cried the commander of the camp. Well, the Polish doctors told them it would be good for getting their focus back :) :)

Seanus (hopes the Mods let this go, it's light-hearted stuff)
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 Sep 27, 10, 23:34    #127
Marek11111:
thank god that Germans and Russians invaded Poland to put stop to polish concentration camp, it saved so many Jews.

That's hilarious!

;)
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 Sep 28, 10, 00:18    #128
How many people died there? How many died in Alcatraz?
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Edited by: Ironside  Sep 28, 10, 00:22    #129
The thread title is silly!
what concentration camp?
What Jews ?
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 Sep 28, 10, 00:41    #130
Ironside:
what concentration camp?

As stated in the British newspaper article quoted in the first post of this thread: “the concentration camp at Bereza”

Ironside:
What Jews ?

Presumably ones who had displeased the ‘dictatorship without a dictator’.
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 Sep 28, 10, 01:05    #131
Harry:
As stated in the British newspaper article

Who believe in a press article ?phew !the British paper ? let me guess - guardian eh?
Harry:
Presumably ones who had displeased the ‘dictatorship without a dictator’.


Wasn't they Poles ? Why need to stress they religion ?
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 Sep 28, 10, 01:11    #132
Ironside:
let me guess - guardian eh?

Why not read before posting? That way you don't make rather stupid mistakes.
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Edited by: Ironside  Sep 28, 10, 01:32    #133
Harry:

Why not read before posting

It doesn't seems to be helping you does it?
So, was it , the Guardian, the Daily Telegraph or the Times? same difference !

Ironside:
Why need to stress they religion ?

Do you agree?
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 Sep 28, 10, 01:52    #134
Ironside:
So, was it , the Guardian, the Daily Telegraph or the Times?

The Times | March 25, 1938

Ironside:
same difference !

Only an utter cretin would say that the Guardian and the Telegraph are the same.
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Edited by: Ironside  Sep 28, 10, 02:03    #135
Harry:
Only an utter cretin would say that the Guardian and the Telegraph are the same.

I have never said that the Guardian and the Telegraph are the same. I think you should practise what you preach a bit more or somebody will take you for a lawyer !


Harry: "The holidays always make me sad. I can't help but remember that my grandfather died in a concentration camp around this time of year."

Ironside: "Oh, I'm sorry to hear that."

Harry: "Yeah, he got drunk and fell out of a tower."
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Edited by: trener zolwia  Sep 28, 10, 02:06    #136
Ironside:
The thread title is silly!
what concentration camp?


Hmm... Sounds like a summer camp where one goes to be alone, unencumbered by outside distractions they are free to relax and contemplate and concentrate on important life matters...
Heck, concentration summer camp sounds like a fine place!

I wonder if they have canoeing? :D
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 Sep 28, 10, 02:13    #137
trener zolwia:
Heck, concentration summer camp sounds like a fine place!

Americans roll eyes
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Edited by: Ironside  Sep 28, 10, 02:16    #138
trener zolwia:
I wonder if they have canoeing?
I
I'm sure they do!
!
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 Sep 28, 10, 02:18    #139
sjam:
Jews sent to Polish concentration camp March 1938!!!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bereza_Kartuska_prison
The name concentration camp is used here.
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 Sep 28, 10, 02:25    #140
guesswho:
The name concentration camp is used here.

And since wiki said so, it must be true.
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 Sep 28, 10, 02:30    #141
sjam:
ANTI-JEWISH AGITATION IN POLAND



Is the holocaust and it's bitty gritty details all you talk about?
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 Sep 28, 10, 02:32    #142
Here's the cover from a 1933 edition of the Polish satirical journal Mucha.

Mucha: Poland is mobilizing

(link to the magazine)

For those who don't speak Polish, the radio in England is broadcasting statements like "Poland is mobilizing!", "Gdańsk for the Germans!", "Poland wants to take Berlin!". The caption underneath reads: "A German at the microphone in Berlin, and at the speaker his cousin in London."

;)
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 Sep 28, 10, 02:49    #143
Bzibzioh:
And since wiki said so, it must be true.


I don't see why not. You guys base many posts here on wiki. Is it only true when it suits your believes?
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 Oct 30, 10, 21:10    #144
sjam:
Jews sent to a Polish run concentration camp in March 1938


Oh, boy...That was Easter time, and I am sure that Poles celebrated by feasting on shinke...The 'horror of Polish crimes'!

poles

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 Oct 30, 10, 22:34    #145
First of all it's Belarusian Concentration Camp and not Bereza Kartuska but Biaroza. So it's a Bielayussian CC in Bieroza. All keep one standard. I'll take Polish CC in Oświęcim and you swallow Bielarussian CC in Bieroza with my stinky foot :-)


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