Is Józef Piłsudski the king of modern Poles?

Another altar of his in this church has reliefs depicting six scenes in the life of St. Stanislaus.

I doubt it.

You are the expert...

That could be as at that time it was the German merchants who made Krakow and other towns prosperous.

After all it was the Poles who monopolised the river traffic so what did the Germans have to contribute when most of the wealth was in Polish hands?

As the capital of a powerful state and a member of the Hanseatic League, the city attracted many craftsmen, businesses, and guilds as science and the arts began to flourish.[15]

Kraków, then the capital of Poland, was also a Hansa city with German burghers around 1500.

Exactly the kind of attitude i'm talking about.

Why not the Polish merchants? After all it was the Poles who monopolised the river traffic so what did the Germans have to contribute when most of the wealth was in Polish hands?

Because Krakau was mainly german till the 16th century

KRAKOW

Krakow holds a special place among the Polish towns which were members of the Hanseatic league. The splendor it enjoyed in the late medieval period was not only due to its membership in the union--Krakow of that time was above all the capital and the main administrative center of Poland.
However, as a Hanseatic town, Krakow could participate in the European trade exchange and let its own burghers prosper...
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Many traces of the Hanseatic period have remained. Admiring them may become a fascinating adventure and unforgettable experience for those tourists who are interested in the European culture. It may also be an opportunity to visit unique monuments, in many cases almost unspoiled by the passage of time.

In 1980, it was decided to re-establish the Hanseatic League as the Hanseatic League of New Time (also known as the New Hansa). It hopes to foster and develop business links and tourism within towns and cities as well as promote cultural exchange.
Apart from old Hanseatic cities, the New Hansa granted membership to some cities which had not been members of the medieval Hansa but had had wide trade connections with the Hansa in the Middle Ages.
The latter include twelve Russian cities, most notably Novgorod, which was a major Russian trade partner of the Hansa in the Middle Ages, even though Russian cities had never been official members of the Hanseatic League.

Because Krakau was mainly german till the 16th century and a member of the Hanseatic League?
The contrary was more likely true....

What attitude?

I'm sorry but thats just a chauvinistic lie, one of your many Kraków throught its history had a Polish majority, calling a Polish capital with a Polish majority and a city that due to grain trade was the most important in Hanseatic league "German" makes you an idiot.

- The city was almost entirely destroyed during the Mongol invasion of Poland in 1241, after Polish attempts to repulse the invaders had been crushed in the Battle of Chmielnik.

- Kraków was rebuilt in 1257, in a form which was practically unaltered, and received self government city rights based on the Magdeburg Law.

- Kraków was a member of the Hanseatic league and many craftsmen settled there, established businesses and formed craftsmen's guilds.
City Law, including guilds' depictions and descriptions, were recorded in the German language Balthasar Behem Codex.

- In 1475 delegates of the elector George the Rich of Bavaria came to Kraków to negotiate the marriage of Hedwig, the daughter of King Casimir IV Jagiello to George the Rich. Hedwig traveled for two months to Landshut in Bavaria, where an elaborate marriage celebration, the Landshut Wedding (Landshuter Hochzeit 1475) took place in St. Martin's church (Landshut).

Around 1502 Kraków was already featured in the works of Albrecht Dürer as well as in those of Hartmann Schedel (Nuremberg Chronicle) and Georg Braun (Civitates orbis terrarum).

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BB got anything except for Wiki?

know history of Kraków very well

The name was to call a region of birth, as for his nationality he was from a Polish noble family, with a Polish coat of arms and a long tradition of pro-Polish patriotic activities

As far as I can see I'm the only one bringing some facts to the discussion!

You are the one with only an opinion....

its not exactly right, he was from Lithuanian noble family .....but he considered himself Lithuanian in historical sense, but for simplified minds of contemporary cartoon fans - is better to stress that for all practical purpose it explains that he was Polish;P

Sorry? You're bringing wikipedia and given your outlandish thesis that Kraków had a German minority i'm inclined to believe you either edited it or are aware that its bollocks, find another source.

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IN the vast plains of Little Poland, now laid waste by the
first Mongolian invasion, the whole civilization of the
country was annihilated, the soil left fallow, the cities
burnt down and depopulated.

The only means to raise the
country economically was the introduction of foreign capital and
foreign hands for work. German colonization, on a large scale,
was begun

Is Józef Piłsudski the king of modern Poles?

Oh and I didn't say they were a minority...in Krakau's golden age they were the MAJORITY!

http://www.archive.org/stream/cracowroyalcapit00lepsuoft/cracowr oyalca pit00lepsuoft_djvu.txt

Yes and you lied, your only proof was wiki, just like last time, given that anyone including you can edit it and we've had examples of people doing just that to fit their argument yours is worthless.

The city was almost entirely destroyed during the Mongol invasions of 1241, 1259 and 1287

It was rebuilt and incorporated in 1257, based on the Magdeburg law, with tax benefits and trade privileges for its citizens.[10] These citizens were German settlers who moved in during the Ostsiedlung, and who constituted a majority of burghers in contemporary Polish and Bohemian towns.[11]

As the capital of a powerful state and a member of the Hanseatic League, the city attracted many craftsmen, businesses, and guilds as science and the arts began to flourish.[15]

Germans constituted the majority during the 14th century, and became Polonized in the 16th century.[13]

14th century
In 1308 the rebellion of German speaking citizens of Kraków is broken by the Polish King. That costs Poland Gdansk annexed by Teutonic Orders. German speaking citizens will no more have political ambitions. They learn Polish and try to Polonize as quickly as possible.

The oldest known print from Poland is considered to be the Almanach cracoviense ad annum 1474 (Cracovian Almanac for the Year 1474)[2] which is a single-sheet astronomical wall calendar for the year 1474 printed and published in 1473 [3] by Kasper Straube.

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The first print written in Polish language is believed to be Hortulus Animae polonice, a Polish version of Hortulus Animae written by Biernat of Lublin, printed and published in 1513 by Florian Ungler in Kraków.

The city was practically ruined during the first Tatar invasion in 1241, but the introduction of German colonists restored its prosperity, and in 1257 it received "Magdeburg rights," i.e. a civic constitution modelled on that of Magdeburg.
In this year the Tuchhalle was built.

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Crakow was also the cultural capital of the country with a university founded in 1364. In the 15 th century, Krakow's intellectuals ...The cities, long populated by foreigners--mostly Germans--slowly became more Polish.
The best example of this is the capital of Krakow, where by the end of the 15 th century the Polish element had become a majority.

Germans constituted the majority during the 14th century, and became Polonized in the 16th century.[13]

....so technically they are included in our ancestry. Yes, the input of our German ancestors was quite invaluable xD

Piłsudski is a Polish coat of arms.

i'm inclined to believe you either edited it

Veit Stoß a clearly German artists who did alot of cool work for now-polish towns but still is and was a German. ;)

Golden Age ends!

Thanks for the link Gruni! :)

It's rather interesting that all this happened first after full polonisation of the German element.

But you are obviously overestimating those German influences. After the first quasi prehistoric period of German presence Cracow became more and more Polish with a lot of Italian color

It's rather interesting that all this happened first after full polonisation of the German element.