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Mar 17, 10, 13:32 #241

Ksysia:

That's really nice of you guys to read some of my musings, and comment on them. Thanks for not saying 'this is stupid so get out'.

well, maybe I was a bit to sarcastic, but I feel that it is really difficult to discuss anything with you, unless is in your head, because you making a lot of confusing statements, which are most of the time impossible to understand.

However, I admire your effort of you are making to record your experience while in the UK, although I feel it is very personal, therefore the "comments" from other people I think.
I don't find your blog very objective, instead it is ridden with prejudice, lack of patience and understanding for the culture you are living in. Ksysia, people are the same everywhere, you just need to give them a chance and I feel that you look at some British as if they were aliens. In a way they are, but it is because you have a tendency to look at them that way.

I personally prefer the journalistic style of writing, when the author puts the facts in and does not judge, or implements feelings, which is a very difficult thing to do in my opinion. Kapuscinski comes to mind, because his style of writing was like that. He was able to take the reader to whatever place he was writing about. You are talking readers to your personal world most of the time and there is nothing wrong with it but I think you blog should have a disclaimer.

king polkagamon	Edited by: king polkagamon Mar 17, 10, 14:38 #242
Aphrodisiac you regard yourself a paragon of objectivity?At least Ksysia admits she presents her personal opinions not these of someone else.

aphrodisiacThreads: 22 Posts: 3,998 Joined: Apr 15, 09 ♀	Edited by: aphrodisiac Mar 17, 10, 14:55 #243
king polkagamon: Aphrodisiac you regard yourself a paragon of objectivity?At least Ksysia admits she presents her personal opinions not these of someone else. I merely stated my preferences when it comes to reading material and we are way off topic.

SokratesThreads: 19 Posts: 4,464 Joined: Jan 19, 09 ♂ [Suspended]	Mar 17, 10, 14:55 #244
Nathan: Arrogance and disrespect will never be cured with diplomacy. It will be cured by murdering women and children and then running away from regular army like Ukrainians do :)))

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Edited by: Ksysia Mar 18, 10, 15:25 #245

Thanks aphrodisiac.
I have stated it in the about me page, that everyone is welcome to talk back to me (but I have razed down three people for lack of content in the insults)

I am doing several things on the blog: I not only record my experience, I have also the chance to vent, which is always handy. I give the Anglophones a chance to read how other people view them (if you read the latest Terry Pratchett or this silly book about Poles 'Poles Apart', then you know that they crave this info and how they try to imagine how they must look to strangers. They usually gloat over themselves). And I also return in kind the Nazi attitude the English have towards other people. e.g. they just won't serve me food, won't clean my table anyway, won't sell me things when it's my turn in the line - but AFTER all the 'white people'.

I am growing in contempt, and you are right to notice this. Only the reasons for it are different. You probably suspect some 'nationalism', but we don't really have it like they have it.. I hate them because they pretended to be on the Allied side, while to this day they are Nazi in everyday life.

Example: My friend from Nigeria, a bank manager moved her job to the UK only to find that there will be no other job - other than traffic management or toilet cleaning. White boys were laughing at her when she was washing the toilets saying: 'even their bank managers wash our toilets'.

I'm not a nationalist, I feel for the Nigerian girl just like for Poles. I despise the 'white boys'. But I'm not a bloodthirsty Nazi either. I won't kill them. I will simply only give them cleaning jobs in due time.

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Edited by: aphrodisiac Mar 18, 10, 15:49 #246

Ksysia:

Thanks aphrodisiac.
I have stated it in the about me page, that everyone is welcome to talk back to me (but I have razed down three people for lack of content in the insults)

I am doing several things on the blog: I not only record my experience, I have also the chance to vent, which is always handy. I give the Anglophones a chance to read how other people view them (if you read the latest Terry Pratchett or this silly book about Poles 'Poles Apart', then you know that they crave this info and how they try to imagine how they must look to strangers. They usually gloat over themselves). And I also return in kind the Nazi attitude the English have towards other people. e.g. they just won't serve me food, won't clean my table anyway, won't sell me things when it's my turn in the line - but AFTER all the 'white people'.

I am growing in contempt, and you are right to notice this. Only the reasons for it are different. You probably suspect some 'nationalism', but we don't really have it like they have it.. I hate them because they pretended to be on the Allied side, while to this day they are Nazi in everyday life.

Example: My friend from Nigeria, a bank manager moved her job to the UK only to find that there will be no other job - other than traffic management or toilet cleaning. White boys were laughing at her when she was washing the toilets saying: 'even their bank managers wash our toilets'.

I'm not a nationalist, I feel for the Nigerian girl just like for Poles. I despise the 'white boys'. But I'm not a bloodthirsty Nazi either. I won't kill them. I will simply only give them cleaning jobs in due time.

thanks for the explanation. It clarifies many misconception I had. I think that living in another country could be a test. On the other hand, British deal with an influx of Eastern european immigrants and one would expect varied reactions, some of them you have described and I have read on PF from other posters.
I would comment more, but I am off topic and I will try to comment on your blog one of these day, since that would be more appropriate:)

king polkagamon	Mar 18, 10, 16:12 #247
You notice how big heart Ksysia has.She will not give English toilet cleaning jobs when they come to Poland.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Mar 18, 10, 18:32 #248
Ksysia: White boys were laughing at her when she was washing the toilets saying: 'even their bank managers wash our toilets'. How did they know she was a bank manager? I think that is a bit far fetched dear girl. Ksysia: I will simply only give them cleaning jobs in due time. And you promised me a really good job :-(

KsysiaThreads: 39 Posts: 545 Joined: May 6, 09 ♀	Mar 18, 10, 18:39 #249
time means: And you promised me a really good job :-( If you're not a white boy with an attitude - you can have it.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Mar 18, 10, 18:43 #250
Ksysia: If you're not a white boy with an attitude - you can have it. Thank you :-) Nice blog by the way!

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