TheOther: If you would have taken the time to actually read that page, you would have seen that the Polish side doesn't deny the murders.
What are the elements of proving murder and what is the burden of proof? You've failed to establish that there were any murders, haven't you. The only way you can prove the act of murder applies is to produce the judgments of a court of competent jurisdiction with such judgments showing a verdict of murder passed. Unless you can do this, you are not telling the truth, and further, you are being inflammatory.
Who has standing to deny or not deny the alleged murders? The alleged murderers only. You are misconceived if you think otherwise. I don't deny that you have deliberately not told the truth here or failed to give context to your claims. Can I do that on your behalf. No. Your argument is therefore moot.
If you had taken the time to actually read the article, and taken the time to consider the elements of the serious offences you are alleging, you would have seen that your flippant remark of
TheOther: don't forget to compile a list of all ethnic German civilians murdered by Poles immediately after the start of WW2.
has no unshakeable and incontrovertible basis upon which to be founded. Please, if in future, you seek to sensationalise and crtitque alleged Polish crimes, then don't found such arguments based on matters to which you have absolutely no idea regarding their intricacies.
TheOther: If you would have taken the time to actually read this thread, you would have seen that the source mentioned is a book which shows that Sokrate's claims are not correct.
Where does this purported book negate such claims. Do you think I have to hand a copy of
TheOther: "Der Kreis Wirsitz : ein westpreußisches Heimatbuch", by Herbert Papstein, 1982
next to my copies of the paper, Playboy and Biggles. I don't, so produce the extract from that book.
TheOther: There are various reports of murders committed by Poles at the start of WW2 in that book.
Reports eh? Having regard to your source, precisely state:
1. How many alleged murders were committed;
2. How many judgments of murder were handed down by a court of competent jurisdiction;
3. Whether, if there were any judgments of murder, if any of those convicitions of murder were overturned on appeal or otherwise;
4 The names and ethnicity of the convicted murderers and murdered, having regard to their passports, personal claims of ethnicity and/or their reputation of ethnicity vis the community;
5. What defence or circumstances in mitigation were relied on by the alleged murderers at their trials.
Good luck.
TheOther: Well, instead you decided to produce some verbal junk. And what do we do with junk? Right: PLONK!
We'll see, won't we.
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