POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country?

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,812 Joined: May 9, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 06:53 #1
Some people say it's a Central European country, while others say Eastern... I think i heard that most of the Poles consider themselves as Central Europeans. I do myself prefer the word Central, more than Eastern, cause "Eastern" makes me think of communism, you know, as the part of Europe that was beyond the Iron Curtain was called Eastern Europe... What's your opinion ?

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07 ♂	Edited by: Lukasz Oct 30, 07, 06:56 #2
When we look in to old books ;) Germany, Austria, Hungary, Poland and so on are central european countries. Russians, Ukrainians and so on are eastern.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 06:57 #3
map of central europe

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 06:58 #4
ive always thought that countries behind the iron curtain were eastern europe - curtain has gone which now puts poland in central europe for me

YogibearThreads: 1 Posts: 63 Joined: Oct 23, 07 ♂	Edited by: Yogibear Oct 30, 07, 07:00 #5
North Eastern geographically but for a long time Eastern Europe was a concept.

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,812 Joined: May 9, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 07:02 #6
Wikipedia articles (in French, English, German and Polish) show Poland as a Central Europe country. But we often hear in the British press for example, Poles are Eastern Europeans, and sometimes, Central ones... I think things will change with the time. Wait for a few more years, and everybody will say that Poland is in Central Europe...

telefonitika	Oct 30, 07, 07:15 #7
i would have said Poland is Central European :)

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Oct 30, 07, 07:17 #8

Quoting: Yogibear

North Eastern geographically

I saw articles mentionning North Central too...

And even Northern Europe in its extended meaning

The light blue part...

A Dutch map of Northern Europe in 1601...

ZezeThreads: 10 Posts: 93 Joined: Sep 22, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 07:24 #9
EE Market I guess we all know what EE stands for dont we Nobody want make Poles fell bad or low them is just what it is East Europe not Central and Russia is not Europe at all

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,812 Joined: May 9, 07 ♂	Edited by: Polson Oct 30, 07, 07:27 #10
Quoting: Zeze East Europe not Central Don't agree, for me Poland is Central Europe... Quoting: Zeze Russia is not Europe at all Don't want to "defend" Russia, but the extrem West side belongs to Europe by definition...

ZezeThreads: 10 Posts: 93 Joined: Sep 22, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 09:07 #11
like that Turkey is also Europe !!!!!

dtaylorThreads: 15 Posts: 992 Joined: Sep 15, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 09:11 #12
Quoting: Zeze like that Turkey is also Europe !!!!! why not, the more the better id say. this idea of europe being some kind off elite group of nations is rubbish

ZezeThreads: 10 Posts: 93 Joined: Sep 22, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 09:21 #13
Quoting: dtaylor some kind off elite group of nations that is what it is if you like or not

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 09:43 #14
Quoting: Zeze like that Turkey is also Europe !!!!! some say UK isnt true Europe as well ...

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 10:28 #15
central

Giles

Oct 30, 07, 10:38 #16

Geographically Poland is central. The name's "Western Europe" and "Eastern Europe", are highly politicized words, which simply subsituted for the phrases "good guys" and "bad guys", the ruling elite making it simple in laymans terms; a legacy of the cold war. However, it has been preserved because the concept is so deeply ingrained in the "western mind". Why confuse the masses by bring up "central", keep it simple.
Maps are draw up by the victors. Countries are where the victors say they are.

telefonitika	Oct 30, 07, 10:39 #17
Quoting: Lukasz some say UK isnt true Europe as well ... we are but a little island just offshore :D lmao

Giles	Oct 30, 07, 10:41 #18
yeah the UK offshore bank account for, the supr rich, third world dictators, oligarchs and terrorists.

miranda	Oct 30, 07, 10:41 #19
Quoting: Giles Countries are where the victors say they are. yes

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 10:45 #20
Eastern.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Oct 30, 07, 12:00 #21
Poland is in CEE (central & eastern Europe)

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 12:05 #22
Well, if Europe's center is indeed in Poland, and if Poland's area is greater than that central point (which seems to be true) then Poland is in CNESW (center, north, east, south and west).

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,349 Joined: Feb 20, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 12:07 #23
Quoting: z_darius CNESW (center, north, east, south and west). Let's settle on centre of the known universe then

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Oct 30, 07, 13:12 #24

Quoting: z_darius

Well, if Europe's center is indeed in Poland, and if Poland's area is greater than that central point (which seems to be true) then Poland is in CNESW (center, north, east, south and west).

The center of Europe is said to be in the area of Krakow ;)

But apart from the geography, the Poles have more a Western "mind"...actually it's a mix, for me...But i think that Western Poland is more westernized than the Eastern part.

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 13:18 #25
Quoting: szarlotka Let's settle on centre of the known universe then Ya know, considering how your head may be sometimes spinning when you're in Poland... yeah, that is a possibility ;)

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,349 Joined: Feb 20, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 13:20 #26
Quoting: z_darius considering how your head may be sometimes spinning when you're in Poland Really? I've always been impeccably stone cold sober out there myself. Well apart from the occasional lapse or ten. LOL

MichalThreads: - Posts: 2,408 Joined: Feb 27, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 14:46 #27
The Poles are certainly Central European and are not really the same race as the Russians at all. The Russians are tougher and that fact comes from the fact that historically, the Russians came from Mongolia and probably therefore have more in common with the Turks. That is why in 1945, Europe was saved by the Russians, almost single handedly.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 14:49 #28
Quoting: Michal the Russians came from Mongolia and probably therefore have more in common with the Turks.

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,812 Joined: May 9, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 14:50 #29
Quoting: Michal The Russians are tougher What do you mean by "tougher" ?... Quoting: Michal That is why in 1945, Europe was saved by the Russians, almost single handedly. Do you remember the US troops coming...for me, THEY saved Europe along with English, and some French, Poles, etc. more than the Russians.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Oct 30, 07, 14:55 #30
Quoting: Polson THEY saved Europe along with English, and some French, Poles, etc. more than the Russians. If you mean defeating Gerries then no doubt Soviet Union did much more than western allies.

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