Poles as Iroquois of Europe

shewolfThreads: 5 Posts: 1,835 Joined: Dec 23, 06 ♀	Jun 16, 10, 07:36 #31
What year did he say this?

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 13:08 #32
shewolf: What year did he say this? in the year of the rat!

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Jun 17, 10, 09:04 #33

Quite easy to understand idolizing Bismarck in ex-GDR with 30% of its population living on the dole or at least using the "social safety net" - no doubt about his main role in creating the first welfare state worldwide.

On the contrary, his political "achievements" were just paving the way for Adolf and his cronies.
I suggest watch the German movie Das Weisse Band (White Ribbon) - it's all about Bismarck's proto-Nazi Germany.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aaapMYGBJs

hague1cmaeronThreads: 21 Posts: 1,652 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂	Jun 17, 10, 11:01 #34
Bratwurst Boy: unrivaled education system I don't think so, Poland had an education ministry before Prussia!

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Jun 17, 10, 16:04 #35
Crow: May become touristic attraction they may!

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jun 17, 10, 16:07 #36

Borrka:

no doubt about his main role in creating the first welfare state worldwide.

Not only Bismarck himself build and ruled a highly competetive and successful country, after WWII it was the new western Bundesrepublik who decided for a social capitalism aka Bismarck (not the commie GDR just for your information).

This model proved to be one of the most successful models for more than 60 years, not only in Europe but in the world! The basics of Germany's political peace and economical successes.

Borrka:

I suggest watch the German movie Das Weisse Band (White Ribbon) - it's all about Bismarck's proto-Nazi Germany.

You are spouting crap again!
Nothing surprising here...and again you get your facts wrong.
The "Das weiße Band" was about the time before WWI. The only one from this village soon going out to kill for Kaiser and Fatherland was the narrator, the "good" teacher. Should tell you something...if you would have a braincell left in your easy peasy black/white world of thinking!

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Jun 19, 10, 01:50 #37

Bratwurst Boy:

(not the commie GDR just for your information).

It's a common knowledge in my "black/white world" that commie GDR was a total failure - now it has changed to a permanent burden for the Western tax payer .

Bratwurst Boy:

The "Das weiße Band" was about the time before WWI.

<Die dänische Zeitung Politiken sieht in dem Film ein „Zurückkehren zu Hanekes Wurzeln der deutschen Sprache und Kulturtradition.“ Das weiße Band sei „ein erzdeutscher Film über die Deutschheit.“>

<Daniel Kothenschulte nannte den Film in der Frankfurter Rundschau ironisierend ein Lehrstück, das sich „früh zu erkennen“ gibt: „Zwei Jahrzehnte später wären diese bösen Kinder erwachsene Nazis“ und bemängelt die Holzschnittartigkeit der wenigen Figuren, spricht aber dennoch von „faszinierenden zweieinhalb Stunden“.>
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_weiße_Band_–_Eine_deutsche_Kindergesc hichte

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jun 19, 10, 01:55 #38

Borrka:

Zurückkehren zu Hanekes Wurzeln der deutschen Sprache und Kulturtradition.

And I like that very much too! Enough of Hollywood...

Borrka:

Das weiße Band sei „ein erzdeutscher Film über die Deutschheit.“>

Well, that might be even true...:)
I liked what I saw (not all of it tough)...very homely...the life of my great/grandparents.
Not unusual for most farmer villages of that time across Europe one would think.

Borrka:

But that is an opinion, nothing else, just one interpretation.
There are interviews with Haneke about this...there is nothing of that kind about this movie.
All opinions and when you think about who was going to go to war soon actually all things get another perspective.

You know, there are these guys and gals who will see Nazis everywhere...you are one of them!
Get a grip!

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:p_vJA2Q44GIJ:www. br-online.de/bayerisches-fernsehen/kino-kino/interview-michael-haneke- das-weisse-band-ID1245397714824.xml+Das+wei%C3%9Fe+Band+Haneke&cd=10&h l=en&ct=clnk

BorrkaThreads: 49 Posts: 770 Joined: Apr 25, 08 ♂	Jun 19, 10, 02:03 #39
Bratwurst Boy: You know, there are these guys and gals who will see Nazis everywhere...you are one of them! Not really. I'm rather aware that nazi-tmes in Alemania are over. “Deutschtümmelei” is still alive !

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jun 19, 10, 02:05 #40

Borrka:

I'm rather aware that nazi-tmes in Alemania are over.
“Deutschtümmelei” is still alive !

What's wrong with "Deutschtümelei"?
What about "Polandtümelei" ;)

Sorry to disappoint, it's very well alive and even growing, better get used to it!

I heart Germany!

PS: When you really believe that the Nazi times in Alemania are over maybe you can work now on your habit to bring in the Nazis in every discussion...be it Bismarck or an innocent movie?

But even if not, the Nazis are only an outlet for your Germanophobia anyhow...if it weren't the Nazis it would be something else so I expect not really anything from you. I just don't care a rats fart about your opinion about my Fatherland!

Have a nice day! :)

Oh and here another one for the go:

Deutschtümelei YAY!!! :):):)

BorrkaThreads: 49 Posts: 770 Joined: Apr 25, 08 ♂	Jun 19, 10, 02:09 #41
Bratwurst Boy: What about "Polandtümelei" ;) Just start a new thread lol.

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