Poles in the Crusades to the Holy Land

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Edited by: Mr Grunwald Oct 22, 10, 22:14 #61

southern:

into vodka and Cristians hid it in huge cellars.

Not a good idea, think of the newspapers of the time if they existed
"HEADLINE: POLISH KNIGHTS SLAUGHTER CHRISTIANS AS THEY LOOK FOR VODKA CELLARS"
Wouldn't be a good idea at all... ;p

Filios1:

Then they would be free to come and go as they pleased.

Ahhh all this talk makes me want to play http://www.taleworlds.com/
Mount&Blade :)
Feels like an medieval Lord there hehe

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08 ♂	Oct 22, 10, 22:32 #62
ShortHairThug: Polish knights did not need to look to Palestine for that, True, weren't the pushes east also considered crusades? the Northern crusades were after the main part of the Holy Land crusades (the Teutons had realised it was all going to go belly up and had looked for new pastures)

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Oct 22, 10, 23:33 #63
Barney: in essence said Spiritual works can be seen as equivalent to modern day health insurance given the lack of effective care at the time. That is a very interesting way to look at it.

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Oct 22, 10, 23:37 #64

The failure of the crusades in Palestine did in fact lead to the redirection of Christian military zeal against the heathens in the Baltic lands, which in turn led to the militarization of Lithuania and its subsequent expansion all the way to the Black Sea. When the Lithuanians did finally convert late in the 14th century they did so in a political union with Poland rather than in submission to the hated Knights of the Cross. Thus the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth is arguably a far flung result of the crusades, and perhaps the Commonwealth's relative religious tolerance was reaction to the fanaticism of the crusader enemy.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Oct 23, 10, 00:35 #65
Des Essientes: The failure of the crusades in Palestine did in fact lead to the redirection of Christian military zeal against the Against Byzantium.There was the money as crusaders found out.

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08 ♂	Oct 23, 10, 09:37 #66
Des Essientes: the heathens in the Baltic lands and the Cathars in France (not as far to travel and most English knights already spoke French)

POLENGGGsThreads: 5 Posts: 211 Joined: Apr 26, 10 ♂	Nov 26, 10, 11:56 #67
This describes why a Polish is usually an aggressive, untrustworthy, crook - they have some outlaw genes in them from these 'Jesus Knight's'

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Nov 26, 10, 12:11 #68

Des Essientes:

Thus the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth is arguably a far flung result of the crusades, and perhaps the Commonwealth's relative religious tolerance was reaction to the fanaticism of the crusader enemy.

The concept of tolerance was enacted because of all the hostilities towards Protestants in France. As many Polish noblemen were protestants at that time they feared that the sociaty will go after them. Later on most of them converted to Catholiscism or their sons/daugthers thanks to Jesuits which were teaching in Universities.

OlafThreads: 8 Posts: 1,369 Joined: Oct 29, 09 ♂	Nov 26, 10, 13:42 #69
Now Poland takes part in other crusades, in Iraq and Afghanistan, for different reasons.

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