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Wiedzmin_fanThreads: 2
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 Jun 9, 10, 18:11    #61
POLENGGGs:
Poland and Polish don't care much for 'Slavic'


Well, that's too bad. Slavic culture is pretty neat. I thought some of the pagan traditions are still preserved even to this day. Don't people celebrate Ivana Kupala and Maslennica in Poland? Don't they still refer to Svarog/Dazhd'bog/Veles/Perun, or to Baba Yaga? Aren't the musical instruments the same (gusli/svirel'/volynka/rozhok/zhalejka)?

I agree there's not much of similarity in the architecture. But the food is pretty much the same!

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 Jun 9, 10, 18:19    #62
Wiedzmin_fan:
Don't people celebrate Ivana Kupala and Maslennica in Poland?
Absolutely, but you will not find that here on PF. This is a forum for foreigners to talk about Poland.
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 Jun 9, 10, 18:37    #63
Wiedzmin_fan:
I think it's a love-hate relationship (with more of the latter). There are too many similarities between the two, which only makes the differences (and the betrayals, and the violence) all the more traumatic. It's like having a sibling you don't get along with - on one hand, you two are family, on the other hand, they are hurting you more than any stranger could.


Very good and thoughtful post!
Aren't you a Russian by any chance? No... you don't have to reveal yourself... :)

skysoulmate:
No, not at all. I just think it was a good summary of why the distrust exists.


Polonius has been holding antirussian and antijewish campaign on this forum since the very start harping on the same stuff over and over again. Besides his personal attitude shines through all of his posts (except for those that dedicated to names where he only can be normal). Is it healthy for a person of I assume >30 y.o. be on that kind of wavelength every time? I guess it's not...
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 Jun 9, 10, 18:42    #64
Sasha:
Aren't you a Russian by any chance?


I am 1/4 Russian, 1/8 Polish, and the rest of me is Ukrainian. So it's close enough :)
allacces1Threads: 4
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 Jun 9, 10, 19:17    #65
I say one backward communist country loving another...
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 Jun 9, 10, 19:32    #66
Wiedzmin_fan

Dobro pozhalovat, buddy!

allacces1:
allacces1


Hmmm... Look at that, a new-wave intelligent English gentleman here. :) Where are those good old times?
gentleman

Oh... here they are... :)
new-wave
polishmeknobThreads: 12
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 Jun 9, 10, 21:22    #67
What are you talking about? The Poles hate Russia.
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 Jun 9, 10, 23:42    #68
polishmeknob:
What are you talking about? The Poles hate Russia.


LOL

Not me.
Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34
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 Jun 10, 10, 00:13    #69
polishmeknob:
What are you talking about? The Poles hate Russia.

Some do, some doesn't care, and some others are Russophiles

Ahh how cruel can the world be? It would been so much easier if we were all just... humans? (pff how boring would that be)
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 Jun 10, 10, 00:27    #70
Mr Grunwald:
Some do, some doesn't care, and some others are Russophiles


I think most Poles just don't care about Russians one way or the other. They don't particulary like them or hate them. Its not like Russians play a role in their daily lives.
PaulinaThreads: 2
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 Jun 10, 10, 00:27    #71
Wiedzmin_fan:
I think it's a love-hate relationship (with more of the latter). There are too many similarities between the two, which only makes the differences (and the betrayals, and the violence) all the more traumatic. It's like having a sibling you don't get along with - on one hand, you two are family, on the other hand, they are hurting you more than any stranger could.


So very true!

Sasha:
Aren't you a Russian by any chance?


LOL And I, after reading Wiedzmin_fan's comment quoted above, thought he must be Polish ;)))
Drac90Threads: 2
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 Jun 10, 10, 19:34    #72
Bratwurst Boy:
Berlinka

at first i was thinkin you are waitin for this Berlinka
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsautobahn_Berlin-K%C3%B6nigsberg :)


You give back our culture we will give you back yours buhahaha :)

on the second thought i have better idea, European museum! we will not give it back, You will give back ours, we will take some of culture of other countries and make it into museum :) perfect plan :D
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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  Jun 10, 10, 19:48    #73
Drac90:
You will give back ours,


What do you mean?
I don't think there is anything still to give back...

Drac90:
European museum!


Good idea but where should this museum be located and who should run it?
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 Jun 12, 10, 22:39    #74
Russians got talent :)


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 Jun 24, 10, 17:04    #75
Interesting thread! As an American, I must share this.....(In order to fully understand, you need to understand race relations in the U.S.)

About a week ago I was shopping at an estate sale (it is an "open house" where people can purchase items no longer wanted by the family of someone who died). The sale was held in a town where African Americans are moving in and becoming the majority. There was an African American man and his wife asking the nationality of the woman who was running the sale. She told them she was Polish. He wanted to know if she was pure Polish, and in the thinking of a typical 3rd generation immigrant, she replied that Polish people are really a mixture of nationalities because of invasions of Poland. The black man said to her that this means Polish people have been BASTARDIZED--and she agreed!

Not one to shrink from confrontation, I spoke up and told him Poles are not bastardized. They have been POLLUTED. By the look on the faces of the man and his wife, they were upset with my analysis, but they didn't ask me for further explanation. They paid for their purchase and left. I'm sure the word POLLUTED brought visions of the Ku Klux Klan and racial purity to their minds. I wasn't talking about race--I was talking about rape.

I apologized to the woman running the sale, but told her I was tired of some African Americans insulting white people at every opportunity.

If they had talked to me, I would have told them that in war, rape is often used as confirmation of victory and domination. A woman who is raped and impregnated by a foreign invader does not give birth to a bastard. She knows full well who the father is, but only by face, not by name. A bastard, on the other hand, was given birth by a woman who cannot identify the biological father, usually because she had willing sex with multiple men (which is a sterotype of African American women living on child welfare checks instead of working).

Was I correct?

P.S. I sent a link to the You Tube video "History of Poland in Ten Minutes" which I found here on the PolishForums.com site to the owner of the estate sale company!
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 Jun 24, 10, 19:24    #76
Poliand and Russia are alike. They loves same foods, drinks, fishes, musics, entertainments and they both do cook delicious foods that I know of. Maybe same cultures ?????

There is no way they can't hate each others.
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 Jun 24, 10, 19:32    #77
Krystal:
Maybe same cultures ?????


Not the same, but very similar. Smaller nation in such situation is usually much more aggressive in attempts to keep the differences intact and show to everyone that they are different, very different. ;) Look at Ukraine for example, they even replaced russian-like word "vertolit" with a english "helicopter" in their own language... ;)
king polkakamonThreads: 1
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 Jun 24, 10, 19:51    #78
Slight differences.They visit the same places,have the same taste,Poles are probably more germanized in some ways.
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Edited by: Borrka  Jun 25, 10, 10:49    #79
Fairy tales about Russo/Polish "similarities" are result of ignorace or lies on purpose.
I've spent about 10 years in many different parts of Russia, I speak the language, as a matter of fact I like Russkies and I love their culture.
But on the other hand I can hardly imagine two European nations being more different from each other (and it's by no means better versus worse qalification - differant is the right expresion).
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 Jun 25, 10, 11:32    #80
Borrka:
Fairy tales about Russo/Polish "similarities" are result of ignorace or lies on purpose.


Like vodka and Wodka?????

Borrka:
I've spent about 10 years in many different parts of Russia, I speak the language, as a matter of fact I like Russkies and I love their culture.


How are the people there in general?

Borrka:
But on the other hand I can hardly imagine two European nations being more different from each other (and it's by no means better versus worse qalification - differant is the right expresion).


Could be that Russia are Euroasians.
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Edited by: David_18  Jun 25, 10, 12:29    #81
This is why i love russians!!!!!!!!! Laughing everytime i see this vid xD



And yes this is in russia.
Pinching PeteThreads: 1
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 Jun 25, 10, 12:46    #82
David_18:
Laughing everytime i see this vid



Classic.. X-D
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 Jun 25, 10, 22:33    #83
ForVictoria:
Interesting thread! As an American, I must share this.....(In order to fully understand, you need to understand race relations in the U.S.)

About a week ago I was shopping at an estate sale (it is an "open house" where people can purchase items no longer wanted by the family of someone who died). The sale was held in a town where African Americans are moving in and becoming the majority. There was an African American man and his wife asking the nationality of the woman who was running the sale. She told them she was Polish. He wanted to know if she was pure Polish, and in the thinking of a typical 3rd generation immigrant, she replied that Polish people are really a mixture of nationalities because of invasions of Poland. The black man said to her that this means Polish people have been BASTARDIZED--and she agreed!

Not one to shrink from confrontation, I spoke up and told him Poles are not bastardized. They have been POLLUTED. By the look on the faces of the man and his wife, they were upset with my analysis, but they didn't ask me for further explanation. They paid for their purchase and left. I'm sure the word POLLUTED brought visions of the Ku Klux Klan and racial purity to their minds. I wasn't talking about race--I was talking about rape.

I apologized to the woman running the sale, but told her I was tired of some African Americans insulting white people at every opportunity.

If they had talked to me, I would have told them that in war, rape is often used as confirmation of victory and domination. A woman who is raped and impregnated by a foreign invader does not give birth to a bastard. She knows full well who the father is, but only by face, not by name. A bastard, on the other hand, was given birth by a woman who cannot identify the biological father, usually because she had willing sex with multiple men (which is a sterotype of African American women living on child welfare checks instead of working).

Was I correct?

P.S. I sent a link to the You Tube video "History of Poland in Ten Minutes" which I found here on the PolishForums.com site to the owner of the estate sale company!


The way the term "African American" is used in the U.S. is so stupid. Every true white person in America is European American, yet no one uses that phrase.
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 Jun 25, 10, 22:37    #84
Pierdolski:
The way the term "African American" is used in the U.S. is so stupid. Every true white person in America is European American, yet no one uses that phrase.


YES indeed!!! Down with American imperialism!!!!
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 Jun 26, 10, 02:16    #85
There's a difference between Russia and USRR. USSR murdered more russians than poles (of course Katyn is a genocide and a terrible mass murder on Polish nation) to be honest. USSR was a worst enemy of Russia and russians (WWII - unequipped cannon fodder, syberia, gulags, femine, mass murders) than of Poland. So we should all hate USSR and blosheviks but we don't have to hate each other.
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Edited by: f stop  Jun 26, 10, 02:34    #86
what?? USSRians all moved out and Russians moved in overnight? Poeple were always the same. No need for hate. Those are just games that boys who like wars play.
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 Jun 26, 10, 14:06    #87
ForVictoria:
I apologized to the woman running the sale, but told her I was tired of some African Americans insulting white people at every opportunity.


What do you want? You must pay for centuries of slavery. Wait a little and you will see the dawn of pan-Afro-Americanism; and you will be insulted and oppressed everywhere in your own country. The world will get up side down for you.


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