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IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Jun 7, 10, 18:36 #241
ruslan71: And if you are such a proud man of your nation You didn't understand my point. I'll explain it to you. You claim to be Polish, yet you said that you are ashamed of being Pole, correct? So, my advice to you become citizen of other country and claim to be .....whoever! Move on! Why you are on PF whining about whining Poles?! I have no time for a such wet-blanket or troll. I-S (tiens)

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂	Jun 7, 10, 18:41 #242
Ironside: I-S (tiens) I see I am very inspiring. >^..^< M-G (titty!)

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Jun 7, 10, 18:58 #243

Rogalski, I saw that, yeah. The IDF soldiers should be punished only with a view to their breaking of international law norms. However, the people on that ship were very aggressive and the soldiers likely feared for their lives. I might have fired myself in such circumstances, you just don't know til you are in that situation.

Both sides blundered IMHO. As Finkelstein said, Israel had other options and has opened a can of worms. However, that ship undermined the aid effort's credibility given that they had weapons.

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Edited by: ruslan71 Jun 7, 10, 19:11 #244

TO M-G: You think that other countries dont have Polish people in them, and how does it sound strange, yeah as a little kid living in the US very strange that part of my life has nothing to do with where my opinion stands today, in that time all i did was run around like a kid so you have nothing to say to that. and to SoftSide, if you dont have time to answer such comments why did you spend so much time getting angry and responding to my comments, sounds like you have a lot of time, but just gave up, get over it not everyone has to like polish people, you probably dont like other people from other countries to so just give up because you will make a fool of yourself if you keep speaking, because i believe i wrote nice things i dont write anything like F*** polish people or I hate them or anything like, i simply voiced an opinion, and all you have been able to do is attack in an immature way, like i asked you before if you have such a strong opinion against me than tell me what is so great about the polish people. I believe they have many positive traits as a nation and people but there is not enough positivity to combat the negativity and thats where my view and i stand today. I have three passports so i definately have moved on and am very happy in doing so.

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂	Jun 7, 10, 19:21 #245
Good boy. Apologies accepted. >^..^< M-G (nuff said)

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Jun 7, 10, 20:12 #246

MareGaea:

TO JOLA:I have lived in poland by the way for quite some time, I can chose to be whom I want. and affraid of polish history topics, first of all i said nothing about polands rich history, and if you have a question just ask, dont ever assume anything, because people may suprise you ;) just some future advice

What is sometime? A few years?
And if you're ashamed of being Polish and affraid of Polish history topics, what are you doing on Polish Forums in the section tittled History of Poland?

MareGaea:

Sounds pretty strange coming from somebody who lived a very big part of his life in the US talking about "us Poles".

When have you stopped being Dutch?

ruslan71:

and if you have a question just ask, dont ever assume anything, because people may suprise you ;) just some future advice

I usually don't have children giving me silly advice, but I do give advice to children. Here is mine to you: a person can be ashamed of his deeds, cowardice, lack of morality, and even thoughts, but not of his physical appearance, or certainly not of his country of birth. Another words, your actions which are controlable by you. At the moment, you are a fake, an actor, and I'll spare you more pleasantries. A shamful position to be in, unfortunately for you.

ruslan71Threads: - Posts: 6 Joined: Jun 6, 10 ♂	Jun 7, 10, 20:15 #247
Jola: really haha you must do some more study of politics and the theory of politics, because i can see you have no idea what you are talking about. we can talk someother time im going now.

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Jun 7, 10, 20:25 #248
ruslan71: we can talk someother time im going now. Don't count on it. I don't want to talk to you, but I might ride you for fun. You will enjoy it.

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂	Jun 7, 10, 20:52 #249
1jola: but I might ride you for fun Don't overestimate yourself. That's a bad habit you should learn to lose. >^..^< M-G (and I didn't leave NL because I was too afraid)

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Edited by: Rogalski Jun 8, 10, 11:46 #250

Seanus:

Both sides blundered IMHO

Exactly. I think the IDF were heavy handed to say the least and should be called to account for the deaths of the nine people aboard. There needs to be an investigation of that and also the aid agency which obviously had ulterior motives other than bringing aid to the Palestinians.

The trouble is, such heavy handiness on the part of the Israelis alienates the majority of Palestinians who otherwise might be disposed to dialoguing with their neighbours in the pursuit of peace. That's why they elected Hamas in Gaza.

Little mentioned, but equally relevant is the EGYPTIAN blockade of the Gaza strip to the south. They are putting steel sheets into the ground (with American finance) to prevent tunnels being dug from Gaza to Egypt. If the Israeli blockade is so unreasonable (and in some ways it is), why is the Egyptian one not questioned and opposed in the same way?

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Jun 8, 10, 13:49 #251

That's a good point and George Galloway knows it. He is sending a flotilla next week I think, entering via Egypt to Rafah. He has already had a run-in with the Egyptian authorities and will want to avoid a repeat of that. The powers have a way of manhandling you.

Israeli fears are well founded but they are bordering on paranoia. It gets ridiculous. Fresh fruit is allowed in yet canned fruit isn't. WTF?? I just hope that the muscle flexing ends soon as there are some big batters involved and some are ready to let loose. Let those Palestinian people enjoy water at least. It is gey hot in Gaza and they need basic amenities. I have seen how innocent families live in poverty and squalor. Forget the image of the militant fighter, they too have their cause, and remember the grief and struggle of those most in need. We moan about our lives being tough yet we have an abundance of technology and all of our basic physiological needs are catered for in the decadent West.

Let there be no more victims!

RogalskiThreads: 9 Posts: 146 Joined: May 8, 09 ♂	Jun 8, 10, 20:25 #252
Seanus: I have seen how innocent families live in poverty and squalor Yeah I used to live in Dundee too :-)

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