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Polish Jews in the US used to be perceived as stupid too (now it's quite the opposit).


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nordic  Aug 23, 11, 01:53    #1
In the U.S., Polish Jews arriving before 1910 were also perceived as stupid (for no other reason than they were accustomed to a different culture and spoke another language). So many "Pollock" jokes arose that Americans still tell them to this day, even if no one remembers why. The Polish Jews suffered heavy job discrimination and suspicion of criminality; not surprisingly, their children suffered low grades and IQ test scores. Today, of course, many Americans hold the opposite prejudice; Jews are viewed as the most brilliant of ethnic groups.

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 Aug 23, 11, 02:15    #2
In the U.S., Polish Jews arriving before 1910 were also perceived as stupid

They were the original Pollacks, still are.
Jews are viewed as the most brilliant of ethnic groups.

Perhaps, if you figure in a one or two IQ points higher than your average Yank, brilliant? Hell no.
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 Aug 23, 11, 03:15    #3
I thought it was the Chinese that were the most intellectually brilliant of ethnic groups and Jews were stereotyped as electrical store owners.
During the holocaust the educated ones escaped, boosting IQs of their ethnic class in their new homes, and also perpetuated their values of education onto their children. An old boss of mine, a Polish Jew with a PHD, had pointed out to me his motivation for academic qualifications were not just for employment prospects and cerebral stimulation but also in case he might need to emigrate in a hurry. I'm not sure if he meant it as a joke. Nevertheless, many truths are spoken in jest.
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Edited by: MyMom  Aug 23, 11, 03:29    #4
Jews were stereotyped as electrical store owners.

Aren't they stereotyped as doctors, lawyers and ... standup comedians now? Hardly occupations for geniuses :)
Anyway, whenever a certain group dominates some area one needs to look how much of their success is owed to talent/intelligence and how much to favouritism.
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Edited by: MediaWatch  Aug 23, 11, 04:46    #5
In the U.S., Polish Jews arriving before 1910 were also perceived as stupid (for no other reason than they were accustomed to a different culture and spoke another language). So many "Pollock" jokes arose that Americans still tell them to this day, even if no one remembers why. The Polish Jews suffered heavy job discrimination and suspicion of criminality; not surprisingly, their children suffered low grades and IQ test scores. Today, of course, many Americans hold the opposite prejudice; Jews are viewed as the most brilliant of ethnic groups.

Most stereotypes are created by the media. They don't call media people "opinion makers" for nothing.

When you control media, especially TV/motion picture media, you can make smart people into dumb people, dumb people into smart people, evil people into angels, angels into evil people, etc. You can do this not only with ethnic groups, but also with individuals, corporations, consumer products, regional groups, politicians......you name it.

Its no accident that politicians and corporations spend millions of dollars on TV advertising. They know the tremendous power that TV imagery of their person, product, or company has on the human mind. Its no accident that when company A which makes product ABC, sees its sale of product ABC go through the roof when TV advertising (favorable TV imagery) of it is seen on a major media TV show like the superbowl or any other major broadcast event.

Unfortunately for Polish people, many anti-Polish bigots have controlled big TV networks and motion picture production companies and made sure their anti-Polish bias was incorporated into the shows and movies they produced and controlled. This occurred mostly in the 1960's and 1970's.
nordic  Aug 23, 11, 04:48    #6
Ben Freedman on the Jews
I don't know if I can say it in this company, but when I lived in Germany, the Germans said about the Pollocks - (they called them "the Pollocks," the Eastern European Jews), "Where a Pollock pisses, grass will never grow."
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Edited by: MediaWatch  Aug 23, 11, 04:55    #7
Ben Freedman on the Jews
I don't know if I can say it in this company, but when I lived in Germany, the Germans said about the Pollocks - (they called them "the Pollocks," the Eastern European Jews), "Where a Pollock pisses, grass will never grow."

I believe the word "Polack", which is what I think you meant, came from Germany. Its an exxageration of the Polish word "Polak" which is much softer sounding then the guttoral sounding Germanic word "Polack", which was meant to demean and dehumanize Polish people in the German and English language.
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 Aug 23, 11, 05:27    #8
Everybody knows it's orientals who are the smartest, not Jews.
nordic  Aug 23, 11, 22:17    #9
Pollock is the word that Ben Freedman on the Jews used
nogw.com/download/_07_ben_freedman_on_jews.pdf
benwilliamslibrary.com/facts.htm
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 Aug 23, 11, 23:41    #10
many anti-Polish bigots


You know, why would anyone in media care less about a rubbish Communist country which was almost totally destroyed in WW2 and wasn't on the front line during the Cold War?
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 Aug 23, 11, 23:47    #11
Belarus? ;)
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Edited by: BBman  Aug 23, 11, 23:49    #12
Everybody knows it's orientals who are the smartest, not Jews.

I don't think asians (the japanese may be the only exception) are the smartest. They just have the best ability to memorize. They don;t do that well when it comes to innovation. Just look at china, all their technology was stolen from the west.


They were the original Pollacks, still are.


Not too sure about this, jews hate Poles with a passion. I think they hate Poles more than the kkk hates blacks.
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 Aug 23, 11, 23:59    #13
Just look at china, all their technology was stolen from the west.

it's called "knowledge transfer", and they are VERY smart at it. Do not underestimate the Chinese!
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 Aug 24, 11, 00:07    #14
Not too sure about this, jews hate Poles with a passion. I think they hate Poles more than the kkk hates blacks.


So the racist Polonia and village dwelling morons in Poland would have you believe.

Truth is, Jews couldn't care less about Poland.

it's called "knowledge transfer", and they are VERY smart at it. Do not underestimate the Chinese!


I just cannot understand why the West handed so much technology and information to China - Google's experiences there should have warned people off, but no.

Mind you, the Chinese also appear to be completely useless at using such information - look at the utter disaster that has been their High Speed Railways :P
log  Aug 24, 11, 01:06    #15
Poland, along with other countries, was handed over to the jewish communists. Hitler, according to DNA tests in 2010 was found to be a jewish-negro.
WW2 was started so that the jews could start the nation of Israel. Adolf Hitler - Founder of Israel by Hennecke Kardel. delphiandomine, what is your ethnicity?
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 Aug 24, 11, 01:14    #16
log,what is your point?
Now,to be clear,I mean that in the widest most general way possible,just what is the point of a nose breathing knuckle dragging mummpty like yourselfs existence?
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delphiandomine, what is your ethnicity?

Polish Catholic, of szlachta origin.
log  Aug 24, 11, 02:07    #18
A lot of polish people have been called dumb polacks when polack actually refers to jews from poland.
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 Aug 24, 11, 02:08    #19
A lot of polish people have been called dumb polacks when polack actually refers to jews from poland.


nah. Polack refers more to the dumb idiots who call themselves Polish, yet can't speak Polish.
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 Aug 24, 11, 02:38    #20
I never knew Polish Jews were the first to be called dumb or Pollack. I thought it was the Poles who migrated who weren't Jewish that were originally called that because of the fact they were immigrants and natives made fun of immigrants, generally, back then. Still do, sometimes.
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 Aug 24, 11, 07:30    #21
Pretty much everything delph said in this topic is nonsense, im not gonna waste my time addressing it.

As far as IQs are concerned...

East Asians and South Asians (from Japan, China, Taiwan, etc) have high IQs.
Ashkenazim Jews get high IQ scores in the US as do Poles and other East Europeans.
Sephardi Jews do not.
The Netherlands, Germany, and Eastern Europeans also have high IQs.
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 Aug 24, 11, 12:24    #22
I never knew Polish Jews were the first to be called dumb or Pollack.

I don't know whether that's really true, but I remember the movie "Lost Battalion" about American soldiers in WWI - there was one guy - Polish Jew - who was called "Polack" by his companions. He didn't like it.
watcher  Aug 24, 11, 20:58    #23
Pollock, Polack, Polak, Pollak, etc. are variations of the same word/name. Names such as Polano, Pollock, Polack, Polak, Pollak, are jewish surnames according to websites. Pollock is of jewish/scottish origin. I looked this stuff up on the internet.
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 Aug 24, 11, 21:33    #24
Pretty much everything delph said in this topic is nonsense, im not gonna waste my time addressing it.


Let's be honest - Polack is a word used to describe stupid Poles. Someone that can't read/write Polish is definitely stupid.
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 Aug 24, 11, 21:38    #25
Let's be honest - Polack is a word used to describe stupid Poles. Someone that can't read/write Polish is definitely stupid.


Never heard been said that way (except by you).
It was usually used by some Germans, people in America and supposedly by some Jews on the media (Im not sure on the last I just heard it on this forum when we were discussing the history about jokes regarding Poles).
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 Aug 24, 11, 21:51    #26
Let's be honest - Polack is a word used to describe stupid Poles. Someone that can't read/write Polish is definitely stupid.


So its OK to call a stupid Russian "Russkie"? Is it OK to call a stupid black person "ni**ger"? Is it OK to call a stupid Italian person "Wop"? and so on.....

Why are you always looking to rationalize the use of foul language? Especially against Polish people?
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 Aug 24, 11, 21:52    #27
At the time dumb Pollack referred to someone who could not read and write ENGLISH. They already knew how to speak Polish.
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Edited by: MyMom  Aug 24, 11, 22:00    #28
So its OK to call a stupid Russian "Russkie"?

Here in Poland people would rather use "kacap", although a given Russian would have to work really hard to be called this way, and somehow I can't imagine that kind of word to be used on Polish TV.
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 Aug 24, 11, 22:06    #29
of szlachta origin.

W takim razie waæpan po mieczu czy po k±dzieli?
I doubt it.
Let's be honest - Polack is a word used to describe stupid Poles. Someone that can't read/write Polish is definitely stupid.

According to your own profile you definitely qualify for that title than.
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 Aug 24, 11, 22:15    #30
it's called "knowledge transfer", and they are VERY smart at it. Do not underestimate the Chinese!


They didn't come up with the technology themselves so they are not the smartest! Thanks for agreeing with me:)

So the racist Polonia and village dwelling morons in Poland would have you believe.

Truth is, Jews couldn't care less about Poland.


I live among a shite load of jews here in canada and they are not shy to say that they don't like Poles. I've met jews in europe (when i lived in poland) and they had the same condescending attitude towards Poles.

Btw, Poles in Poland are just as racist as the Polonia. You're a foreigner so Poles probably behave themselves around you so don't notice any racism. You don't speak polish either so you miss out on a lot of things.


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