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k98_man  Aug 17, 10, 23:50    #1
http://kresy-siberia.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=47057

Thanks to Digvijaysinhji altogether more than a thousand malnourished kids went straight from the Soviet concentration camps to a new home in India. He gave Polish education, language etc. until the war was over when he could find them new homes in Australia, Canada, etc.

I thought it was interesting...
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Digvijaysinhji LMAO

k98_man:
I thought it was interesting...

Then you thought wrong
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k98_man:
I thought it was interesting...

Yes, it was. I had no idea about existence of Polish refugee camps during WW2 in India.
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k98_man:
Thanks to Digvijaysinhji

You must be Indian? And I tell you now something very important: don‘t try to make with our black history your country good in Poland! You have a poor taste. For the next time you better chose the "chicken curry is delicious-you must try it-story" - thank you.
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k98_man:
I thought it was interesting...

Thank you for the story, I also think it's very interesting.

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monika87:

You must be Indian? And I tell you now something very important: don‘t try to make with our black history your country good in Poland! You have a poor taste. For the next time you better chose the "chicken curry is delicious-you must try it-story" - thank you.


Not quite sure what your problem is. The website looks Polish, so exactly who is trying to use the situation to look good? Why not slag off the Kresy foundation for using the story on their site?

I think you've just managed to make your own country look bad with your pointless ranting.
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k98_man:
http://kresy-siberia.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=47057

Thanks to Digvijaysinhji altogether more than a thousand malnourished kids went straight from the Soviet concentration camps to a new home in India. He gave Polish education, language etc. until the war was over when he could find them new homes in Australia, Canada, etc.

I thought it was interesting...

Yes, I think it's very interesting. I've already heard and read about this, but I don't think it's that widely known. Somebody should make a film about the story of these children :)
Maharaja must have been a wonderful man :)
If someone is interested there is some information about his ties with Poland in Polish Wikipedia:
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jam_Saheb_Digvijay_Sinhji

monika87:
You must be Indian? And I tell you now something very important: don‘t try to make with our black history your country good in Poland!

You have a "black history", Monika? What does it mean? LOL

monika87:
You have a poor taste.

You mean people in India have a poor taste because they chose to help Polish children? LOL Interesting... Aren't you Polish yourself?

monika87:
For the next time you better chose the "chicken curry is delicious-you must try it-story" - thank you.

No, next time you just shut up, thank you.
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Paulina:
monika87:
You have a poor taste.

You mean people in India have a poor taste because they chose to help Polish children? LOL Interesting... Aren't you Polish yourself?

What have you a bee in your bonnet about?
Only a complete idiot would hate someone for helping the kids from the motherland, are you such a person? You sound like it.

I only thought he wants to spread such a story to make his country more popular in Poland.
Because many Poles do not like Indians, I think the most in this forum are not raised in Poland, come from an english-speaking country, where a lot Indians live and therefore knowing nothing about it. Maybe the dislike is not so much distinct in larger cities, but more in the country.

I would say our country has suffered in the WW2 the most, so he should advertise with some other things for his country in Poland, as for example Indian food...

But it looks like I probably overreacted.

India. I mean there are 1,222 million people in India, second most populated country in world, and the most are very poor and lives in slums. The most die because no food or disease and there is no second digiviajhda? Why no one picks up thousand slumies and send them to canada or to the aborigines? These kids would also have there a better future... why you do it for the foreigner kids and not for your own?
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That's a good point! India has so many problems... why are there no Mother Theresas helping the poor slum orphans who must earn pennies a day just for a bowl of rice and beans instead of going to school?
It is nice that he helped people during wwii but what they should be doing is helping their fellow countrymen now and bragging about that!
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monika87:
What have you a bee in your bonnet about?
Only a complete idiot would hate someone for helping the kids from the motherland, are you such a person? You sound like it.

No, actually, you seemed to be such a person that's why I reacted in a sarcastic way.

monika87:
I only thought he wants to spread such a story to make his country more popular in Poland.

You don't even know if his from India and why he wrote about this.
And even if he wanted to "spread such a story to make his country more popular in Poland" then what is wrong with that? If you think it's wrong to post something positive, then there's something wrong with you, in my opinion.

monika87:
Because many Poles do not like Indians,

And who told you that?

monika87:
I think many in this forum come from an English-speaking country, where many Indians live and are not raised in Poland and therefore knowing nothing about it. Maybe the dislike is not so much distinct in larger cities, but more in the country.

Um... And what's your point?

monika87:
I would say Poland has suffered in the 2nd world war the most,

What does it have to do with anything? o_O

monika87:
so he should advertise with some other things for his country in Poland, as for example Indian food...

He can advertise Indian food in the food section of this forum, and this is "History of Poland" section and thus his thread is appropriate and well placed so he had a right to create such a thread. Are you able to understand this?

monika87:
But it looks like I probably overreacted.

Very much so.

monika87:
India. I mean there are 1,222 million people in India, second most populated country in world, and the most are very poor and lives in slums. The most die because no food or disease and there is no second digiviajhda? Why no one picks up thousand slumies and send them to canada or to the aborigines? These kids would also have there a better future... why you do it for the foreigner kids and not for your own?

They don't do it, one Maharaja did this years ago for a group of Polish children who suffered a lot, and you should be grateful that he did this for our compatriots! What is wrong with you??

PlasticPole:
That's a good point! India has so many problems... why are there no Mother Theresas helping the poor slum orphans who must earn pennies a day just for a bowl of rice and beans instead of going to school?
It is nice that he helped people during wwii but what they should be doing is helping their fellow countrymen now and bragging about that!

What is your problem people? This is so petty. Can't you just appreciate the fact that a man helped a group of Polish children although he didn't have to?
It's a "History of Poland" section, and the thread is about a historical event, not about India's today's problems o_O
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PlasticPole:
That's a good point! India has so many problems... why are there no Mother Theresas helping the poor slum orphans who must earn pennies a day just for a bowl of rice and beans instead of going to school?
It is nice that he helped people during wwii but what they should be doing is helping their fellow countrymen now and bragging about that!


Exactly. Indians should not bluffing with the Digviadhdas story (which is nice yes), but should taking Digiviaahsdjh as their ideal and apply the same with their countrymen. Their land is always so bad, it's like they last for ever in the war, you know? In India are many rich people too, but nobody takes care of the own slum people. Woeful.
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PlasticPole:
why are there no Mother Theresas helping the poor slum orphans


Because mother Theresa was albanian.
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monika87:
Because many Poles do not like Indians


That's a load of bull... And I've been born and raised in Poland.
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monika87:
I only thought he wants to spread such a story to make his country more popular in Poland.


So if someone wrote a story about Poles hiding jewish children, would you accuse them of trying to make Poland popular in israel and advise them to talk about how to make bigos instead?

If you had looked at the website you'd have found it was from Kresy foundation and was Polish.

PlasticPole:
It is nice that he helped people during wwii but what they should be doing is helping their fellow countrymen now and bragging about that!


Sop do you suggest Poland stops giving aid to starving kids in Africa and Asia and concentrates on helping the poor in Poland?

Incidentally, India was under British rule at that time, so why not blame the British for everything?
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The only country which truly helped Poland is the democratic Republic of Katmandu.
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Paulina:

You don't even know if his from India and why he wrote about this.

Yes I don't even know, who knows, maybe he isn't! But I thought this "Thanks to Digvijaysinhji", can only be from an Indian... also a Polish would never remember such a name. I think he will tell us once if he is or not. lol

monika87:
Because many Poles do not like Indians,

Paulina:
And who told you that?

See it on the streets how people stare, hear how some people talk... you don't live a long time in Poland or damn sure not there where I grew up

monika87:
I think the most in this forum are not raised in Poland, come from an english-speaking country, where a lot Indians live and therefore knowing nothing about it. Maybe the dislike is not so much distinct in larger cities, but more in the country.

Paulina:
Um... And what's your point?

You are slow on the uptake


monika87:
I would say Poland has suffered in the 2nd world war the most,

Paulina:
What does it have to do with anything? o_O

You are definitely slow on the uptake

[quote]monika87:
But it looks like I probably overreacted.
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monika87:
also a Polish would never remember such a name.

Why not?
monika87:
See it on the streets how people stare, hear how some people talk... you don't live a long time in Poland or damn sure not there where I grew up

Dunno, you must be from a small village cos most Indians I know who live in Krk, warsaw or Katowice are welcomed.
monika87:
You are definitely slow on the uptake

But what does that have to do with South Asians?
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monika87:
But I thought this "Thanks to Digvijaysinhji", can only be from an Indian... also a Polish would never remember such a name. I think he will tell us once if he is or not. lol


Maybe he remembers because he had the name written on a Polish website in front of him.

My wife had heard about this story before, although she didn't remember the name. She's Polish.
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Trevek:

Maybe he remembers because he had the name written on a Polish website in front of him.

Yes maybe, goodness knows

Trevek:

My wife had heard about this story before, although she didn't remember the name. She's Polish.

dtaylor5632:

monika87:
also a Polish would never remember such a name.

dtaylor5632:
Why not?

The most Indian names are like the Digvasdh name, and this name Digvijaysinhji sorry but everyone who says that this name is easy to remember lies. Definitive.
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monika87:
The most Indian names are like the Digvasdh name


Funny, most popular names I know of are Singh and Patel
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Trevek:
monika87:
The most Indian names are like the Digvasdh name

Trevek:
Funny, most popular names I know of are Singh and Patel

I said most not all. Kowalski is also one of the most common name in Poland and there are other Polish last names where are more famous.
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monika87:
I said most not all


I'd still say that most aren't as difficult as Digvijaysinhji. Mind you, that's probably why Patel is so popular, it's easy to say.
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Trevek:
I'd still say that most aren't as difficult as Digvijaysinhji. Mind you, that's probably why Patel is so popular, it's easy to say.


And I still say a lot are as difficult as Digiasdgfji... but anyway, I don't know India and their names well and I suppose same with you... still a good point with the "popular-fact" of Patel!
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monika87:
I don't know India and their names well and I suppose same with you


if you don't know, then how can you make such statements?

I don't know India itself, but I grew up in Britain in an area with Indian/Pakistani communities.

I think you did over-react initially.
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monika87:
Yes I don't even know, who knows, maybe he isn't! But I thought this "Thanks to Digvijaysinhji", can only be from an Indian... also a Polish would never remember such a name.

LOL
You don't have to remember it, you can copy/paste.
And in his profile is stated that his interests are: History, Culture.

monika87:
See it on the streets how people stare,

LOL There are no people from India in my city.

monika87:
hear how some people talk...

I've never heard anyone living in Poland saying that he or she hates people from India o_O

monika87:
you don't live a long time in Poland

I've lived all my life here LOL

monika87:
or damn sure not there where I grew up

And where did you grow up?

monika87:
You are slow on the uptake

monika87:
You are definitely slow on the uptake

No, you just have problems with writing in a coherent way and with logical thinking, I would say.
k98_man Edited by: k98_man  Aug 27, 10, 20:29    #26
To all who defended my post and discussed the very positive topic I posted, thank you. I will not address the others...

Hopefully the descendants of these Polish orphans have multiplied and flourished across the world. Ask these descendants if they "hate Indian people" and I imagine you would have a different reply...

...assuming they knew this little known fact ;)
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k98_man:
Ask these descendants if they "hate Indian people" and I imagine you would have a different reply

and now again: dislike and hate is not the same!

so now tell us, are you Indian or not? ;-)
k98_man  Aug 27, 10, 20:52    #28
I don't see why it matters, but I'll go ahead and "validate" your own vision by stating that I am half-Indian on my mother's side, though I am an American citizen and was born and raised here. Texas to be exact ;)
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No answer is also an answer
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k98_man:
I am half-Indian on my mother's side, though I am an American citizen and was born and raised here. Texas to be exact ;)


Wow, a cowboy and an Indian. Cool.

So, now if you submit something about Americans saving Polish kids someone will probably tell you to start promoting burgers and steaks ;-D

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