Polish Sarmatism

AlekThreads: - Posts: 1 Joined: Mar 18, 08 ♂	Mar 18, 08, 05:02 #61
Does it really matter either you have such glorious ancestors or not? It’s of far more importance who you are in the present or the newest history. As far as I know, the Poles did not hold whatever similar reputation during their history. It’s funny, but mostly insignificant nations try to provide themselves with the background of glory heritage.

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Mar 23, 08, 23:11 #62

I've read a portion of this thread and plan to finish it when I have more time

Recently I've been informed that after high resolution Y-DNA genetic testing that I may trace my ancestry from Polish R1a1 to the Sarmatians. My family is from Poland and I've been able to find out some very interesting things, such as possible Polish viking ancestors (with near matches in England) in addition to this new Sarmatian possibilty. Someone before asked if anyone could trace their family back. Well I may be able to.

hancockThreads: 1 Posts: 118 Joined: Oct 18, 07 ♂	Mar 23, 08, 23:53 #63
it's long

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Mar 24, 08, 18:34 #64

I went through the discussion and there are some side issues. But every forum does the same thing about the original subject matter.

My introduction was more on the lines of using genetic genealogy to determine deep ancestry. So far testing through Family Tree DNA has provided me with information regarding my deep ancestry. Y-dna testing may provide any male with insight to their deep ancestry. If you know that you are related to Szlachta from Poland, then it would be good to take a test. However, just having the surname does not necessarily make one noble. People changed their surname in the 1800's to emulate noble names. Mine for instance is referenced in two herbs: Junosza and Korczak, but until I can establish a blood relation, I have no title to either.

However, I can discuss my genetic ancestry and based on near matches on large databases I can infer historical context based on genetic distance. Genetic distance - the changes noted when comparing haplotypes (your genetic roadmap); one can calculate distance to most recent common ancestor. Although I have no real close matches; those with moderate distances are found or originated in Scotland, England, Poland and India. By estimating the distance you can then turn to historical information to look for a reason for the movement of peoples to far off places from their homeland including Polish Vikings and Sarmatians

ftdna.com I recommend joining the Polish Project first to get a discount. go with the highest reslution test that you can afford. You might be surprised what will turn up.

saabturbografxThreads: 1 Posts: 4 Joined: Apr 27, 09 ♂	Mar 9, 10, 20:53 #65
Mar 14, 10, 01:57 - Thread attached on merging: Sarmatism Does anybody reckon that ancient Sarmatian tribes shared bloodlines with Poland's ruling class? Or did nobility just like the idea of being linked to ancient and renown warriors that were hired as mercenaries by Rome? Is there evidence of this culture in present day Poland, or was it a cultural phenomenon adopted by Szlachta?

TITThreads: 9 Posts: 353 Joined: Jan 7, 10 ♂	Mar 9, 10, 20:56 #66
define an ancient Sarmatians for a starter

SildarThreads: - Posts: 85 Joined: Sep 20, 09 ♂	Mar 9, 10, 20:57 #67
Maybe it will help you. Sarmatism

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Edited by: expatriot Apr 20, 10, 13:29 #68

Hi Guys,

havnt posted for a couple years :))
anyway, im half greek half polish, kick ass combo if you ask me.
I saw those symbols that Lukasz posted on the top of the 1st page.
My question is...Is there a coat of arms for Marciniak family ?
My grandad was from warsaw and that was his last name.
I will also try to post my grandmas maiden last name...I wouldnt even know how to spell it.
Im trying to learn more about my polish ancestry.
Thanks for any commments.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Edited by: time means Apr 20, 10, 13:41 #69
Yes there's some real Polish smartarses on here. Did i read it wrongly? Opps sorry :-)

expatriotThreads: 1 Posts: 32 Joined: Apr 17, 08 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 13:58 #70
lol, no problem. Seriously though...I was just curious if there was a coat of arms for each family name. Dont mean to derail this thread. I will ask in a relevent thread. thanks

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