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gumishuThreads: 17
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Joined: Apr 6, 09  Pictures: 1 ♂ 		Edited by: gumishu  May 12, 11, 10:58    #61
Palivec:
Danzig was a "Free and Hanseatic City", where burghers freely decided about the fate of their home


when - in the times ot the Teutonic Order??

Palivec:
Wait a second, your argument was that the presence of a multitude of nationalities means that every nationality can claim a city.


the thing is the surroundings of the city also matter - and the surroundings of Danzig/Gdańsk whatever you prefer were long dominantly Slavic
Antek_StalichThreads: 6
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Joined: May 6, 11 ♂ 		 May 12, 11, 11:07    #62
Palivec, if you read the wiki on the rebellion of vogt Albert, you certainly noticed the German burghers started polonizing after the collapse of the mutiny. In many cities of the world immigrants contributed to the development and prosperity of given city. Even in Warsaw, the quarter of Saska Kępa (Saxon Hurst) was built by the Dutch, Flemish and Frisians, and then it was owned by the German Saxons for a while.

Gdańsk fortune was simply built on the Polish grain exported via Vistula river. This simply gave the city the strength and autonomy. I'd say Gdańsk/Danzig was always multinational; check the roles of the Polish and German in the Freistadt before the WWII.
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Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended] 		 May 12, 11, 11:34    #63
gumishu:
then it haven't received any financial compensation for it

At least for that Poland can't blame Germany: compensation was paid for Poland and paid in the way that the Polish government wanted it to be paid.
gumishuThreads: 17
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Joined: Apr 6, 09  Pictures: 1 ♂ 		 May 12, 11, 11:36    #64
Harry:
gumishu:
then it haven't received any financial compensation for it

At least for that Poland can't blame Germany: compensation was paid for Poland and paid in the way that the Polish government wanted it to be paid.


go away
IronsideThreads: 59
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Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂ 		 May 12, 11, 11:44    #65
Antek_Stalich:
'Soczewica, koło, miele, młyn".

I wonder how many mistakes were made were made. If somebody was nervous or had slurred speech :)
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Joined: May 4, 11 ♂ 		 May 12, 11, 11:49    #66
Harry:
At least for that Poland can't blame Germany: compensation was paid for Poland and paid in the way that the Polish government wanted it to be paid.

Compensation was in 1990s paid to compulsory Polish workers who were abducted and forced to work in Germany. That money was pitiful though and nowhere near compensated the traumatic experiences of those people.
Other than that there was no compensation to speak of.
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Koala:
Compensation was in 1990s paid to compulsory Polish workers who were abducted and forced to work in Germany. That money was pitiful though and nowhere near compensated the traumatic experiences of those people.
Other than that there was no compensation to speak of


Where is the compensation for the expelled?
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Bratwurst Boy:
Where is the compensation for the expelled?


in your wallet

and you dare to talk about partnership and cooperation
Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11
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gumishu:

in your wallet


*dusts wallet*

Nope...still empty ;)

gumishu:
and you dare to talk about partnership and cooperation


Nope...I was answering some posts about compensation...
gumishuThreads: 17
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Bratwurst Boy

some expelees visit you regularly then (they presumably also have the keys to your money safe)
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Antek_Stalich:
Gdańsk fortune was simply built on the Polish grain exported via Vistula river. This simply gave the city the strength and autonomy. I'd say Gdańsk/Danzig was always multinational; check the roles of the Polish and German in the Freistadt before the WWII.


How is Polish grain relevant? Silly argument. All big cities of that time were on the crossroads of important trading routes. In Danzigs case it was the amber road, where more than grain was traded... the name of the road might give you a hint.
And the Polish role in the history of Danzig/Gdańsk is minor. There is almost no legacy of the much sought (and the Commies certainly gave their best), mystical Polish minority in the city. If I look at the history I can find many German names in all civic matters, quite a few Dutch artists and builders, a few Scots... but almost no Poles. The few known Poles are mostly outsiders who came into the town on behalf of the Polish overlord and/or the church.
If Wilno, with 50-65% Poles, is considered a Polish town here, then Danzig, with 95% Germans, can be considered a historically German town. 5% other nationalities don't make a town multicultural.
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No, North East Germany is native Lechitik
Even Berlin comes from the Polabian word for swamp. Polabians are really a Polish tribe to say. Polabians are Lechitics. The difference of a Polabian is like the difference of a High & Low German.

So East Germany belongs to Polska
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PolskiMoc:
No, North East Germany is native Lechitik
Even Berlin comes from the Polabian word for swamp. Polabians are really a Polish tribe to say. Polabians are Lechitics. The difference of a Polabian is like the difference of a High & Low German.

So East Germany belongs to Polska


I know, I know. Poland ruled over a region 1000 years ago? That's historically Polish land! 3 Poles lived in a city? Polish city, for sure! Slavic tribes muttered some words like Poles? They were Poles of course! Someone traded with Polish grain? Must be a Pole then!
:D
alexw68  May 13, 11, 10:59    #74
Palivec:
3 Poles lived in a city? Polish city, for sure!

;)

@PolskiMocz - sorry mate, but people like you have had the **** taken out of them for years. Love your country and all, but don't make stuff up...
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alexw68:
;)

@PolskiMocz - sorry mate, but people like you have had the **** taken out of them for years. Love your country and all, but don't make stuff up...


Polabians are the original inhabitants of East Germany.
Polabians were a Lechitik tribe.
Poland is a united State of Lechitik tribes.

As I said the difference between a Polabian & Pole.
Is similar to the Difference of Low & High German.

Please learn something & stop being a retard.
alexw68  May 13, 11, 11:06    #76
PolskiMocz:
Please learn something

Trust me, that is my default expectation here.

But from the guy who tells us Werner von Braun had Slavic skullbone structure? No thanks, I'll pass.
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Palivec:
I know, I know. Poland ruled over a region 1000 years ago? That's historically Polish land! 3 Poles lived in a city? Polish city, for sure! Slavic tribes muttered some words like Poles? They were Poles of course! Someone traded with Polish grain? Must be a Pole then!
:D


Polabians are Lechitik & Poles are Lechitik.

Polabians & Polans (Poland) even have similar names.

There are a number of Lechitic tribes. Poles, Polabians, Slovincians, & Kashubians.

Poland was of many Lechitic tribes that united.

alexw68:

Trust me, that is my default expectation here.

But from the guy who tells us Werner von Braun had Slavic skullbone structure? No thanks, I'll pass.

alexw68:
Trust me, that is my default expectation here.

But from the guy who tells us Werner von Braun had Slavic skullbone structure? No thanks, I'll pass.


Wernher Von Braun really does have a Slavic shaped skull. He has a high skull, with large brow ridges & flattened rear of a skull just like a Slav.
He also has a Rounded skull that sticks out more than his lower face. Which is also a Slavic trait.

Slavics really do have distinct skull shapes.

Are you really that unobservant & Retarded?

Let's see some kind of refute. Instead of you jiving like a N*Gger
alexw68 Edited by: alexw68  May 13, 11, 11:34    #78
PolskiMocz:
Instead of you jiving like a N*Gger


Aw, bless.

Yo, me gat better t'ings to do than hang around here whippin' yo' pasty white ass, innit?

Besides which: phrenology has exactly how much scientific credibility? Almost as much as the ethnicity determines territory bollocks you're spouting here.

Feel free to join the 21st century and leave the 19th century proto/pseudo-anthropology to those dead guys.
PolskiMocThreads: 7
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alexw68:
Aw, bless.

Yo, me gat better t'ings to do than hang around here whippin' yo' pasty white ass, innit?

Besides which: phrenology has exactly how much scientific credibility?


I bet you are a Germanic.
I notice alot of Germanics don't refute. Instead tend to respond with jive.
Germanics remind me of Black people quite a bit.

there is a German American lady in my art class. She has curley hair,a flat nose & she has even her jaw sticking out. If she didn't have light coloring she would look just like someone from Africa or an Australian Aboriginal. lOL

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