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kfitzThreads: 1
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 May 22, 11, 12:22    #1
Hello,

I was wondering if anyone here can help with a query?

Among a relative's possessions were two matching rings, which look like a man's and a woman's.

They seem to be silver (there is a stamp inside that says '.925' which I think refers to the purity of the silver).

They have a rough texture on the outside and the text "Bohaterom Powstania Warszawskiego" which I think means "Heroes of the Warsaw Uprising". On the other side there is the date of 1944 and the symbol of the uprising. I have photos, but I'm not sure if I can attach them to a post here?

Anyway, I have searched extensively on the internet but can't find any reference to items like this. Can anyone tell me what they are? Do they date from the war or later? Were they a mass-produced item or would they have been made for, or presented to, an individual? Maybe someone who actually took part in the Uprising?

Any ideas gratefully received!


Best Regards

SokratesThreads: 19
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 May 22, 11, 13:13    #2
They're most likely commemorative rings from the late 60s.
1jolaThreads: 33
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 Jul 10, 11, 12:26    #3
The ring was distributed for a donation to help finance the http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomnik_Powstania_Warszawskiego in Warsaw built in 1989.

The communists were not interested in commemorating the Warsaw Uprising since it was AK who organized it. After the war, those AK soldiers were called fascists and many were imprisoned and or executed for being on the side of Germany(sic). This communist propaganda is still peddled in certain post-communist and Jewish circles.

You can see the ring for sale here http://allegro.pl/pierscien-bohaterom-powstania-warszawskiego-1944-i16 38413244.html
delphiandomineThreads: 42
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 Jul 10, 11, 13:36    #4
1jola:
Jewish circles.


Just can't stop yourself, can you?

Certainly, some of those AK members were hardly innocent - we all know how they terrorised people who were on the same side.

As for the leadership - whoever sent children into a completely unnecessary battle should have been executed for war crimes.
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Edited by: isthatu2  Jul 10, 11, 13:37    #5
Of course,this doesnt mean your relative did not take part in the Up-Rising.
Depending on which side of the Atlantic you are on etc there are various organisations that *may* be able to help you. Records were kept but often are patchy at best but even if your relative wasnt a formal member of the resistence this doesnt mean they didnt take part.

delphiandomine:
Just can't stop yourself, can you?

neither can you,tell me,just what made you such a bitter,tragic person that you have to denegrate the memory of dead children?

delphiandomine:
As for the leadership - whoever sent children into a completely unnecessary battle should have been executed for war crimes.

Id rather my child died on its feet facing its oppressors than dragged out of a celler to be shot clinging to its mothers hem................or burnt alive in a church...............or raped to death by a gang of ukrainians..............
So, delphi, p!ss off with the negativity,its unseemly.
Besides,as anyone with half a brain cell and no axe to grind knows that "children" were not encouraged into combat roles but support roles,in exactly the same way Boy Scouts and young girls were mobilised during the London Blitz.
Did some under 18s pick up guns and fight? Of course they did,I imagine street kids or traumatized kids in any culture would do the same in the situation.....
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 Jul 10, 11, 14:12    #6
isthatu2:
neither can you,tell me,just what made you such a bitter,tragic person that you have to denegrate the memory of dead children?


What disgusts me is that they died in vain - they were sent into a battle which was unwinnable, on the whim of some very poor leadership. I remember when I first read about the Uprising - I couldn't believe the sheer stupidity of it all, and how children were essentially used to further the motives of some very questionable leadership.

Those children are heroes, but the leadership - well.

isthatu2:
Id rather my child died on its feet facing its oppressors than dragged out of a celler to be shot clinging to its mothers hem................or burnt alive in a church...............or raped to death by a gang of ukrainians..............


Wouldn't you be happier that your child wasn't sent to the slaughter needlessly?

I still think that Poland's greatest chance would have been to lie passive while the Soviets rushed on Berlin - only to then cut the Soviet supply lines. The Western Allies wouldn't have interfered (look at the reaction towards Finland - utter disinterest) - and the Soviets would've had huge problems with the AK. The Soviets would've already had to deal with a hell of a battle for Warsaw - would they really have done so well if they were suddenly faced with a rebellion from previously passive Poles?
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 Jul 10, 11, 14:14    #7
delphiandomine:
I still think that Poland's greatest chance would have been to lie passive while the Soviets rushed on Berlin

Me too,but I choose appropriate forums for those sort of discusions,not a thread started by someone who has just lost a relative who may or may not have been in Warsaw in '44.
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 Jul 10, 11, 17:05    #8
Please keep this thread centered on the 'rings'

We already have discussion threads on the 'uprising'
IronsideThreads: 59
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 Jul 10, 11, 17:11    #9
delphiandomine:
I still think that Poland's greatest chance would have been to lie passive while the Soviets rushed on Berlin - only to then cut the Soviet supply lines.

You take soviets for fools !
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 Jul 10, 11, 17:13    #10
To the OP, I think Sokrates is right. Tributes come in different forms.



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