What proportion of the Polish population collaborated with the Nazis?

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Dec 14, 11, 01:09 #121

There is a huge difference between patriotism and exceptionalism. Patriotism is not based on the principle of denying others their fundamental rights. Exceptionalism makes the rights of others outright subordinate to the needs of the group that considers itself exceptional.

As for "uniquely bigoted" and examples from other faiths: absolutely! Mullahs from Iran and Pakistan immediately spring to mind.

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Dec 14, 11, 01:11 #122

Gruffi_Gummi:

Patriotism is not based on the principle of denying others their fundamental rights. Exceptionalism makes the rights of others outright subordinate to the needs of the group that considers itself exceptional.

Ah yes, the latter is what can be commonly seen in modern day Poland among self-proclamed patriots, many of which contribute to Poland in ways such as through violence, criminality and tax evasion.

Gruffi_GummiThreads: 1 Posts: 167 Joined: Jul 2, 11 ♂	Dec 14, 11, 01:19 #123
Pretty close. Similar traits that define individuals as criminals are responsible for the exceptionalism of groups/ethnicities.

Lyzko

Dec 14, 11, 01:38 #124

Jews in America (as opposed to American Jews) stand at a crossroads. On the one hand, never in our history has there been more indiscriminant intermarriage, despite the number of Jews out there for us to choose from. This is NOT America of the 19th to mid-20th century, where outside of maybe New York, Jews were an exotic commodity, nor post-War Italy, Germany etc.. where Jews were in such short supply, EVERY Jew practically was forced by sheer dwindling numbers, to marry outside their faith.

On the other hand, as a response to this phenomenon, never before has sectism been as devisive a part of the Diasporic American Jewish experience as today; Monsey, NY, Williambsburg, Brooklyn etc.... live Jews who purposely live their whole lives and die without ever interacting with a gentile, and (worse yet) remain proud of this fact.

I figure the person who called Jews intellectuals and measures every boychik against a future Einstein... has never been to Borough Park-:)

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