PRUSSIA - Former Vassal of Poland later occupant

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Apr 25, 10, 00:38 #1
What do you think about Modern Germany today? It's not the same as Prussia or Nazi Germany of course but it still has a certain link. Do you think Poles will overcome the image of Germany after the years of "friendship" and peace with their "friendly" neighbor? Or do you think it will all turn bad again?

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Apr 25, 10, 00:45 #2

Prussia lives on! In my heart!!! *wipes tear from eye*
One day it will rise again...jawoll!

...But no, today's Germany is not Prussia...to many Bavarians, Thuringians, Saxonians, Swabians and whatnot innit....

Of course the german national team wears still the prussian black and white colors...the sign of the army is still the cross of the order and prussian virtues are still seen as very admirable and are the base of many german stereotypes...the traces are all there...

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Apr 25, 10, 00:53 #3

Bratwurst Boy:

...But no, today's Germany is not Prussia..

Mr Grunwald:

It's not the same as Prussia or Nazi Germany of course but it still has a certain link

It still has a certain link, no? Like those crosses you mentioned? :)

Is that picture from Hetalia? I LOVE the first episode in movie-anime lol :=)
"Roe! Order! Everyone will speak up 1 after another!"
xD

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Apr 25, 10, 00:55 #4
Mr Grunwald: Is that picture from Hetalia? You know Hetalia too? :):):) You can watch over 50 episodes online now you know...

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Apr 25, 10, 01:11 #5
Bratwurst Boy: You know Hetalia too? :):):) You can watch over 50 episodes online now you know... I know ive watched all of them (I think) Was reading some too So fricking funny lol I just love the German character! ^^ (poor lad having to survive Italy)

TITThreads: 9 Posts: 353 Joined: Jan 7, 10 ♂	Edited by: TIT Apr 25, 10, 01:19 #6
royal prussia :) pic too big

Drac90Threads: 2 Posts: 120 Joined: Apr 23, 10 ♂	Apr 25, 10, 01:39 #7
my favorite time period in history was between world wars :D hope it will be it :)

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Apr 25, 10, 01:42 #8
Drac90: my favorite time period in history was between world wars :D hope it will be it :) That and the time far back as they were all little...;) I've read from alot of people who became history nerds just because of Hetalia!!! ;)

Drac90Threads: 2 Posts: 120 Joined: Apr 23, 10 ♂	Edited by: Drac90 Apr 25, 10, 01:58 #9
dont know but i the fact that i dont see there any east euro countries can means its not any of WWs when Crow will come :( i kinda make account on this forum to meet this dude >.>

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Edited by: Mr Grunwald Apr 25, 10, 02:03 #10
Drac90: when Crow will come :( You kidding? You made an account here to meet Crowie?! :D Bratwurst Boy: He is just around the next corner...he is never gone for long! ;) Exactly! Bratwurst Boy: Have to go now, 'night guys! :) Güte Nacht!

Drac90Threads: 2 Posts: 120 Joined: Apr 23, 10 ♂	Apr 25, 10, 02:08 #11
Mr Grunwald: You kidding? You made an account here to meet Crowie?! :D IM big fan of his, show me other person who try to convince others to his/her point of view that hard when almost entire forum is against him! btw my favorite character from Hetalia is Russia :D this episode with Russia and his sisters is hilarious :D Sleep Well, im off for today too :D

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Apr 25, 10, 03:30 #12
prussia was a vassal to poland? seriously, what are some of you on?? hmm but to answer your other question... poland will be vassal to germany or at least there will be another conflict between the two nations.. that's just the way it is.. i can't really see it not happening in the future.

hague1cmaeronThreads: 21 Posts: 1,652 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂	Apr 25, 10, 04:25 #13
Bratwurst Boy: Prussia lives on! In my heart!!! wipes tear from eye One day it will rise again...jawoll! Ahhhh, that breaks my heart this is for you BB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pyqOTGQpVY

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Edited by: Torq Apr 25, 10, 06:13 #14

plk123:

prussia was a vassal to poland?

Yes - for 172 years (1469-1641). In 1618 Zygmunt III Waza allowed Prussia
to form a personal union with Brandenburg (first Polish mistake) and in 1657 they got
complete independence from Poland (second Polish mistake, but we were pretty much
forced to do it) for the price of Brandenburg quitting their alliance with Sweden during
the Swedish Potop. This allowed Prussia to form, together with Brandenburg in 1701,
the Kingdom of Prussia.

plk123:

seriously, what are some of you on?? hmm

Ever heard of Hołdy Pruskie? Prusy Książęce? Prusy Zakonne? Doesn't ring a bell?

I can't believe it - Polish History 101... that's really sad.

http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho%C5%82dy_pruskie_1469-1641#Ho.C5.82dy_l enne_z_Prus_Zakonnych

http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prusy_Ksi%C4%85%C5%BC%C4%99ce

hague1cmaeronThreads: 21 Posts: 1,652 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂	Apr 25, 10, 07:48 #15
plk123: prussia was a vassal to poland? seriously, what are some of you on?? hmm Boy, you are not terribly bright are you?

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Edited by: Mr Grunwald Apr 25, 10, 09:37 #16

plk123:

prussia was a vassal to poland? seriously, what are some of you on?? hmm

It is a historical fact dumb ass lol

Check out 1525 Hołd Pruski (Prussian homage)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Homage

Just so you know, it took Prussia, Austria and Russia together to take down Poland (Poland-Lithuanian commonwealth)

Just in case you didn't know lol

Drac90:

IM big fan of his, show me other person who try to convince others to his/her point of view that hard when almost entire forum is against him!

That is admirable!
I tried once on a random forum full of Norwegians discussing "How about a new political party in Norway? The Monarch Party of Norway!" Those feministic-socialistic @$$hole$!!!

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Apr 25, 10, 09:55 #17

Mr Grunwald:

Just so you know, it took Prussia, Austria and Russia together to take down Poland (Poland-Lithuanian commonwealth)

Just in case you didn't know lol

This is true.

In the past few hundred years, it always took more then one nation to hold down Poland.

One nation by itself, always had a difficult time holding down Poland.

Its no accident that the Nazis made the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact with the Soviets to hold down Poland TOGETHER.

Drac90Threads: 2 Posts: 120 Joined: Apr 23, 10 ♂	Apr 25, 10, 13:22 #18
not to mention that Poland created Prussia ;)

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Apr 25, 10, 17:35 #19
hague1cmaeron: Ahhhh, that breaks my heart this is for you BB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pyqOTGQpVY Very much appreciated, thank you!

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Apr 25, 10, 17:42 #20
PRUSSIA In old days, from Prussia via Russia to Persia lived one and same people, Proto-Slavs or to say Sarmatians, ancients i think that i already told you that. Few times, at least

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Apr 26, 10, 02:28 #21
Crow: In old days, from Prussia via Russia to Persia lived one and same people, Proto-Slavs or to say Sarmatians, ancients i think that i already told you that. Few times, at least Yes we all know that ;) We are talking about the state Prussia

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	May 3, 11, 15:12 #22
Now that Germany is opening her borders for Polish workers, will the relationship get closer?

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	May 3, 11, 15:15 #23
Mr Grunwald: Now that Germany is opening her borders for Polish workers, will the relationship get closer? In the long rund how can't it be? Neighbours, no borders, freedom of movement for people and goods...

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	May 3, 11, 15:17 #24
Bratwurst Boy: Neighbours, no borders, freedom of movement for people and goods... I would say Germany does a lot better then Russia(former Soviet Union) after ww2 when comparing them both with their relationship with Poland. 1 big plus was that Poles and Germans shared their "animosity" towards the SU as them occupying their lands. (both Western Prussia,Silesia and DDR hehe)

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	May 3, 11, 15:50 #25
Bratwurst Boy: Neighbours, no borders, freedom of movement for people and goods... Now it's just practical stuff - like the Collegium Polonicum in Slubice should become one university with Viadrina and suchlike. One sad part is that despite the borders coming down and so on - there's still only one school in Frankfurt (Oder) where Polish is a compulsory language.

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09 ♂	May 3, 11, 15:54 #26
delphiandomine: One sad part is that despite the borders coming down and so on - there's still only one school in Frankfurt (Oder) where Polish is a compulsory language. and it's probably the most despised subject because it is compulsory :)

Stahl und Blut	Jul 19, 11, 03:45 #27
Jawohl! Preussen lebt in unseren herzen!

Lyzko	Jul 19, 11, 16:40 #28
Dazu waren die Preussen ueberhaupt keine Germanen, sondern Balten. Ironisch, was? Furthermore, the Prussians weren't even Teutons, but instead Balts. Ironic, huh?

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