Torq: Btw - I can understand (or at least I can try to understand) how uncomfortable the knowledge of what your ancestors did must be to you. Well, I'm a German - meaning I can face up to it. You as a Pole prove to be to weak and to cowardly...
Torq, an interesting list about non-German holocaust helpers: FACTBOX-Wiesenthal Center's top 10 WW2 war criminals
FACTBOX-Wiesenthal Center's top 10 WW2 war criminals Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:33pm EST
Nov 30 (Reuters) - Accused Nazi death camp guard John Demjanjuk goes on trial in Munich on Monday to face charges he participated in the killing of 27,900 Jews in 1943.
Demjanjuk is number one on a list of 10 most-wanted war criminals compiled by the Simon Wiesenthal Center, according to a statement issued in April 2009. Here are details of the 10 accused and two further people accused but thought likely to be dead (*).
* ALOIS BRUNNER -- Right-hand man to the Gestapo's "technician of death" Adolf Eichmann, he helped organise deportations of Jews to death camps and would probably top the Center's list of most-wanted Nazi criminals if it did not think the chances of his still being alive to be slim.
* ARIBERT HEIM -- Heim killed hundreds at the Mauthausen concentration camp in Austria with injections of poison and removed organs from victims without anaesthetic. Various media reported in February that he died in Cairo in 1992, aged 78. However the Center says that without conclusive forensic proof of his death, it is still not possible to close his case.
1. IVAN (JOHN) DEMJANJUK -- Accused in 1977 of being the infamous "Ivan the Terrible", a Treblinka extermination camp guard, he was extradited to Israel and sentenced to death, then freed on subsequent evidence.
2. DR. SANDOR KEPIRO -- Serbia's war crimes prosecutor in 2008 requested an investigation into the Hungarian suspected of committing genocide against Jews and Serbs in World War Two.
3. MILIVOJ ASNER -- Alleged to have been a senior security official during the 1941-45 rule of Croatia's pro-Nazi Ustasha regime, Asner says he ordered wartime deportations of Jews and Serbs to their homelands, not to death camps in Croatia.
4. SOEREN KAM -- The Danish-born former SS member is accused of helping Nazi forces in Denmark and of the 1943 murder of anti-Nazi Danish journalist Carl Henrik Clemmensen in Copenhagen.
5. KLAAS CARL FABER -- Accused of serving in the German Security Service in Holland, he was sentenced to death in Holland for murders of prisoners of Westerbork transit camp and Groningen prison in 1944; the sentence was commuted to life imprisonment in 1948. He escaped from prison to Germany in 1952.
6. HEINRICH BOERE -- Accused of killing three Dutch civilians in 1944 as a member of an SS hit squad that targeted anti-Nazi resistance fighters, Boere confessed after being captured by U.S. forces.
7. KAROLY ZENTAI -- Zentai is accused of killing Jewish teenager Peter Balazs in Budapest. At the time Zentai was a 23-year-old warrant officer in the pro-Nazi Hungarian military, but argues he left Budapest with his regiment the day before the murder in Nov. 1944. Zentai is also accused of taking part in "manhunts, persecution, deportation and murder of Jews.
8. MIKHAIL GORSHKOW -- Alleged to have been an interrogator for the Gestapo, he is accused of helping kill about 3,000 men, women and children in the Slutsk ghetto in Minsk, Belarus. Estonian-born Gorshkow became a U.S. citizen in 1953 but was denaturalised in 2002 and is under investigation in Estonia.
9. ALGIMANTAS DAILIDE -- Dailide volunteered for Lithuania's Nazi-backed secret police, the Saugumas, but said he was only a humble clerk. Entering the United States in 1950, he worked as a real estate agent. In March 2006 Lithuania convicted the then 86-year-old of handing over Jews attempting to flee from the Vilnius ghetto. They were subsequently murdered. A Lithuanian court sentenced him to five years in jail, but suspended his sentence due to his health.
10. HARRY MANNIL -- The Caracas-based auto sales millionaire and member of Venezuelan high society is accused of arresting Jews and communists who were later executed by the Nazis while serving in Estonia's political police force during the Nazi occupation.
Torq: I can imagine that it would be difficult to cope with for any sane, decent man and, in a way, I feel for you, Bratwurst Boy. Start to accept the reality Torqi, it was a European project! Without your peoples enthusiastic help it wouldn't had been possible!!! Just take for example your beloved friends, the Hungarians:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Jews#Toward_the_Holocaust
.... A few days later, Ruthenia, Upper Hungary, and Northern Transylvania were placed under military command; these territories contained an additional 320,000 Jews. On April 9, Prime Minister Döme Sztójay and the Germans obligated Hungary to place at the disposal of the Reich 300,000 Jewish laborers. Five days later, on April 14, Endre, Baky, and Eichmann decided to deport all the Jews of Hungary.
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The devotion to the cause of the "final solution" of the Hungarian gendarmes surprised even Eichmann himself, who supervised the operation with only twenty officers and a staff of 100, which included drivers, cooks, etc.[13]
That was the reality...Germans ordering, supervising but the dirty ground work done by the Eastern Europeans themselves, no force needed whatsoever. Germany could never had achieved much without your help!
However, you should find some different way of dealing with the almost unbearable load of the sins of your fathers than by looking for other nations to blame and point fingers at. ROFL
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