remember, forget, forgive, blame ... Holocaust Memorial Day

Nothing would change,

Well one thing that would change would be a much higher casuality rate among non-Jewish populations since refusing to carry orders or giving a Jew a slice of bread typically earned a bullet for you and your family,

Unlikely....

And countries where there was real unwill to deport their Jews were left alone mostly too...

The Germans knew very well that they had no means to force it if there was a wide spread "no"....they only had that many men available.

There were much more volunteers than the Germans needed, no need to force someone.

And countries where there was real unwill to deport their Jews were left alone mostly too...

The Germans had means to murder 80% of all Slavic people and more then 90% of Poles if Russia failed, German nazism was poised to extreminate any number of people who defied it and had the means to do it everywhere it did not have to oppose an equal enemy (ie Russian/Western militaries).

Tell me you are joking.

Although the Holocaust was planned and directed by Germans, the Nazi regime found willing collaborators in other countries, both those allied to Germany and those under German occupation.

The civil service and police of the Vichy regime in occupied France actively collaborated in persecuting French Jews. Germany's allies, Italy, Finland, Hungary, Romania, and Bulgaria, were pressured to introduce anti-Jewish measures; with the exception of Romania, they did not comply until compelled to do so.
Bulgaria and Finland refused to co-operate, and all 50,000 Bulgarian Jews survived (though most lost their possessions and many were imprisoned), but thousands of Greek and Yugoslavian Jews were deported from the Bulgarian-occupied territories. The Hungarian regime of Miklós Horthy also refused to cooperate, but after the German invasion of Hungary on March 18, 1944, 437,000 Hungarian Jews were deported to Auschwitz by the newly instated Döme Sztójay regime, fully knowing that they will be exterminated[22]. The Romanian regime of Ion Antonescu actively collaborated, but its inefficiency meant that only a half of Romania's 600,000 Jews were killed. The German puppet regime in Croatia actively persecuted Jews on its own initiative.

The Nazis sought to enlist support for their programs in all the countries they occupied, although their recruitment methods differed in various countries according to Nazi racial theories. In the "Nordic" countries of Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, and Estonia they tried to recruit young men into the Waffen SS, with sufficient success to create the "Wiking" SS division on the Eastern Front, many of whose members fought for Germany with great fanaticism until the end of the war. In Lithuania and Ukraine, on the other hand, they recruited large numbers of auxiliary troops that were used for anti-partisan work and guard duties at extermination and concentration camps. Most of these recruits were peasant boys, who enlisted simply to gain a ration card, but the Germans were able in these countries to appeal to long traditions of local antisemitism.

In recent years, the extent of local collaboration with the Nazis in eastern Europe has become more apparent. Historian Alan Bullock writes: "The opening of the archives both in the Soviet Union and in Eastern Europe has produced incontrovertible evidence [of] ... collaboration on a much bigger scale than hitherto realized of Ukrainians and Lithuanians as well as Hungarians, Croats and Slovaks in the deportation and murder of Jews."[23]

Historians have been examining the question "Was the Holocaust a European Project?" Historian Dieter Pohl has estimated that more than 200,000 non-Germans "prepared, carried out and assisted in acts of murder." That is about the same number as Germans and Austrians. Historian Götz Aly has concluded that the Holocaust was in fact a "european project that cannot be explained solely by the special circumstances of German history." [24]

Yes, those Danish heroes who saved all their Jews. All 15 of them ...

I didn't knew they had nukes???

And no, they didn't had the means....look at a map of Europe and then look a the numbers of Germans available!

Again you fail to grasp the military vs civilians question, a single infantry batalion of 800 men is enough to pacify a city quarter of 40 thousand by sheer superiority of training and arms.

But if it would be required the regular army could easily wipe out all major population centers in all of occupied Europe within months.

That is only possible if the 40.000 are already pacified....if they would fight those 800 men have no chance!

Countries who didn't "deliver" their Jews were left alone.

Like which countries?

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As a result of the rescue and Danish intercession on behalf of the 5% of Danish Jews who were deported to Theresienstadt transit camp in Bohemia, over 99% of Denmark's Jewish population survived the Holocaust.

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The civil service and police of the Vichy regime in occupied France actively collaborated in persecuting French Jews. Germany's allies, Italy, Finland, Hungary, Romania, and Bulgaria, were pressured to introduce anti-Jewish measures; with the exception of Romania, they did not comply until compelled to do so.

Bulgaria and Finland refused to co-operate, and all 50,000 Bulgarian Jews survived (though most lost their possessions and many were imprisoned), but thousands of Greek and Yugoslavian Jews were deported from the Bulgarian-occupied territories.
The Hungarian regime of Miklós Horthy also refused to cooperate, but after the German invasion of Hungary on March 18, 1944, 437,000 Hungarian Jews were deported to Auschwitz by the newly instated Döme Sztójay regime, fully knowing that they will be exterminated[22].
The Romanian regime of Ion Antonescu actively collaborated, but its inefficiency meant that only a half of Romania's 600,000 Jews were killed.
The German puppet regime in Croatia actively persecuted Jews on its own initiative.

No, I'm not....

Denmark being the most glaring example:

I was thinking about Poland. I know that the rest of Europe is another story.

You never read my links, don't you!;)

Denmark being the most glaring example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_of_the_Danish_Jews

In late 1941, upon the visit of Danish Foreign Minister Erik Scavenius to Berlin, German authorities there (including Hermann Göring) insisted that Denmark choose not to avoid its "Jewish problem".

Bulgaria and Finland refused to co-operate, and all 50,000 Bulgarian Jews survived

But I know Poland was always a special case, one of the few pinned for annihilation, never given even a choice.

Well, for Germans it's the whole "wild East"....how can we make differences! ;)

Do you want me to show you the business end of my shot gun? :)

Because if not then attacking people with automatic weapons, artillery support and armored cars using hammers and knives is a bad idea and if they have even one tank you're sh*t out of luck because its indestructible.

Poland was always an obstacle in German drang nacht osten

his aim was by destroying Poland to decapitate the "mind of the Slavs"

The main reason for the Nazi's hatred of Poland was not race, but the outcome of WW1 and the Treaty of Versailles.

itler wanted to reverse Versailles - nothing more, nothing less.

The main reason why Germans hated Poland was because it was the symbol of their defeat,

thats a bit more then simple reversing of Versailles

Are you a Nazi?

Please don't say that, Sokrates. I can take quite a bit, but being called a Nazi is something I do not tolerate.

I believe that the "Dolchstosslegende" is the key to understand what later happened. Hitler, the Nazis and many other Germans at that time believed that the Empire hadn't lost the war, but were betrayed by forces from the inside. It all goes back to this, and Hitler picked up on it when he later wrote 'Mein Kampf'.

Well, Poland was the result of WW1 and the Treaty of Versailles. As such, Poland was a symbol of the German Empire's defeat, you are correct.

This is important because there's a big difference between Poland being given its independence and taking it, Poles took their independence back by themselves with very limited foreign aid, otherwise no one would give it to them, Versailles only acknowledged the end result.

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On the outbreak of war the Poles found themselves conscripted into the armies of Germany, Austria and Russia, and forced to fight each other in a war that was not theirs. Although many Poles sympathized with France and Britain, they found it hard to fight for their ally, Russia. They also had little sympathy for the Germans. Total deaths from 1914-18, military and civilian, within the 1919-1939 borders, were estimated at 1,128,000.[147]

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The territory of Hungary was reduced from 325,111 km2 to 93,073 km2 and its population from 20.9 million to 7.6 million.[9]
Hungary lost five of its ten most populous cities as well.

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Polish independence was eventually proclaimed on November 3, 1918 and later confirmed by the Treaty of Versailles in 1919.
The same treaty also gave Poland some territories annexed by the Germans and Austrians during the partitions (see Polish Corridor). The post-war eastern borders of Poland were determined by Polish victory in the Polish–Soviet War.

Wilson's friend Edward Mandell House, present at the negotiations, wrote in his diary on 29 June 1919:

"I am leaving Paris, after eight fateful months, with conflicting emotions. Looking at the conference in retrospect, there is much to approve and yet much to regret.
It is easy to say what should have been done, but more difficult to have found a way of doing it. To those who are saying that the treaty is bad and should never have been made and that it will involve Europe in infinite difficulties in its enforcement, I feel like admitting it.
But I would also say in reply that empires cannot be shattered, and new states raised upon their ruins without disturbance. To create new boundaries is to create new troubles. The one follows the other. While I should have preferred a different peace, I doubt very much whether it could have been made, for the ingredients required for such a peace as I would have were lacking at Paris."[26]

And it wasn't only about purely polish territory, it was also about territory purely german in history and population.

If you are talking about Silesia you are wrong.

And it wasn't only about purely polish territory, it was also about territory purely german in history and population.
After the fall of the empires it was a free for all and every nationality which could tried to grab as much land for itself as possible...

Well, the new borders where drawn in Versailles, not in Warsaw.

I think we can say that in the mainstream history it's this treaty which destroyed the german and the Austrian-Hungarian Empire and carved out of them new countries....

It wasn't through a war with Germany that Poland got their independence...quite to the contrary many Poles fighted WWI on the sides of the partitioners.

Of course...Germans are always wrong...as Poles are always right...how could I forget!

As for Mandel i can understand his point of view thought it would have been different if he was Polish,

Austro-Hungary is wholly different and more complex.

And you have cheap-tasting white wine too!!!

Versailles granted Poland something that the Poles have already taken.

carving out a new country is not the correct term, legally reinstating a formerly occupied country is what fits the picture.

"friendship"

and this was an accepted fact at that time (except amongst
most ethnic Poles, of course).

The friendship was, is and will always be very
much real.

Turkey never acknowledged the partitions of Poland. Archenemy from the past
had more decency than our dear, Christian neighbours.

Turkey never acknowledged the partitions of Poland

If Germans and Poles were not such close neighbours we would
probably too best friends

if Hungary had lost huge towns and big stripes of land
to Poland

Do you know of any other countries in the world that didn't acknowledge
the partitions?

That is quite possible (but you would still be stealing our football players ;)).

Well, if Martians invaded Ethiopia and great snow avalanche fell on Hollywood while
the Chinese emperor was having his lunch... ;)