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The righteous among Ukrainians, massacres in "Wołyń" during WW2


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Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34
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Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂ 		 Oct 25, 10, 22:52    #1
As some know there was massacres in "Wołyń" during World war 2 done by Ukrainian nationalists, although some Ukrainians say it was done by Soviets in disguise it is indisputable that those that help Poles were Ukrainians.

http://www.rp.pl/artykul/2,554450-Ukraincy--ktorzy-ratowali-Polakow.ht ml
"Ukrainians whom saved Poles"

Bishop Jan Bagiński was born in the village of Kamionka in the Volhynian voivodship. In 1943, when the Ukrainian Nationalists murdered Polish locals, he was 11 years old. "That I can talk with you right now, I thank our neighbor "Makarow Najstrukow" says the Bishop.
skysoulmateThreads: 41
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Joined: Jan 10, 10 ♂ 		 Oct 29, 10, 03:02    #2
Once again it proves that there are good and bad people in each and every nation.

It's really sad that the Poles and the Ukrainians and Lithuanians may I add don't have closer ties today. It's true that there were atrocities committed on all sides BUT those nations have more in common than what divides them.

Hopefully one day it'll be a true brotherhood between those nations sort of like what you see between Sweden, Norway and Denmark where they like to poke fun of each other yet where there a sense of a true Scandinavian brotherhood. I have relatives in Sweden and Norway and must say I love both countries. Hope one day it'll be just like that between Poles, Ukrainians and Lithuanians, and I'm not talking about the governments but the regular folks in those countries.
Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34
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Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂ 		 Oct 29, 10, 03:08    #3
skysoulmate:
of like what you see between Sweden, Norway and Denmark where they like to poke fun of each other yet where there a sense of a true Scandinavian brotherhood.

Yeah it's a weird phenomenon



skysoulmate:
Hopefully one day it'll be a true brotherhood between those nations

Yeah every "commonwealthier" wish for it
PennBoyThreads: 157
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Joined: Dec 7, 08  Pictures: 2 ♂ 		 Oct 29, 10, 04:36    #4
As father Isakowicz-Zaleski said, in mixed marriages (Polish-Ukrainian) the Nationalists forced the non Polish person to kill his/her spouse and children, a method the Nazis or the Soviets didn't even use.
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Joined: Jan 10, 10 ♂ 		Edited by: skysoulmate  Oct 29, 10, 04:46    #5
Mr Grunwald:
Yeah it's a weird phenomenon




Rock, scissors, paper... HELVETE!! LOL


PennBoy:

As father Isakowicz-Zaleski said, in mixed marriages (Polish-Ukrainian) the Nationalists forced the non Polish person to kill his/her spouse and children, a method the Nazis or the Soviets didn't even use.


So what's your solution? More hate?

Numerous Tsars managed to rule over the occupied territories by deflecting the hate the oppressed felt to a hate of everything and everyone different. To stir up the nationalistic and the religious fervor amongst the worker bees was a brilliant move by the Russians.
Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34
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Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂ 		 Oct 29, 10, 15:20    #6
skysoulmate:
Rock, scissors, paper... HELVETE!! LOL

Oh aren't they funny? ;D

I have a question: Tatars are mostly respected but there still was some Tatars colaborating with the Nazis and doing same things that other "Eastern Europeans" did.
I think that UPA/OUN is in such a light as it is today because Ukrainians put up statues and name streets after Bandera.
HarryThreads: 62
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Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended] 		 Oct 29, 10, 15:26    #7
skysoulmate:
Once again it proves that there are good and bad people in each and every nation.

With Poland of course being the exception that proves the rule (or at least so it seems from the attitude of many Poles).
1jolaThreads: 33
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Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂ 		 Oct 31, 10, 08:08    #8
You should have put a smiley face after that, Harry, or someone might take you seriously and help you derail this thread. Maybe you don't want to talk about good Ukrainians and prefer to talk about bad Poles?


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