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It seems so.Or is it crocodilian love?
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Hey, do you intentionally play off Ruses against Poles? Of course we love them more... :)) Russia is like a rejected boyfriend for Poland who we secretly love. :))
If you asked any country of the former USSR or ex-Warsaw pact in comparison to Russia result I guess would be the same.
Everybody was responsible but it happened that now Russians bear a burden even though bluntly judging by the nationality of bolshevik's nestled in Russia in 95% of cases one should ask Israel and in the rest of cases (in descending order) Germany, Latvia, Poland (he-he... thanks for Mr. Dzerzhinsky) and the last of all Russia.
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Sasha:

and the last of all Russia.


Agreed.
22000 + 44000 (komsomoltsy) commies in CCCP were mostly Jews and Latvians.
Plus 1 for Felix Edmundovich lol.
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The only good commie is a dead commie.
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Sasha:

Russia is like a rejected boyfriend for Poland


Is this a bondage relationship?
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Sasha:

Of course we love them more... :))


I knew it. :)
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Russians are like the jealous boyfriend who catches Poland sleeping with another man (EU) and who are so paranoid about getting cheated on again that they are no longer willing to grant sexual services.
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southern:

Is this a bondage relationship?


Kinda... Every Russian inwardly Polo-addicted.
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Oct 14, 08, 03:55    #9
Polo - the mint with the hole, LOL

For those that are unsure of what I am talking about, go to Google Images and insert Polo into the search box. Mint polos will be the first image.
seamus breathn  Apr 12, 10, 21:36    #10
I think you miss the point between Poles and Russians. Katyn was horrific; but even the film on Kaytn fails to go into a greater analysis of the Polish situation.

Perhaps no one can understand the Katyn catastrophy no matter what one does. Stalin -- the leader with pathological problems --; Churchill -- with no patholgies to blame, but certainly not helpful to the Poles; and the Poles themselves, caught between Russia and Germany.

The crushing fact of the Polish/Russian relationship, which dogs us even today, is -- and was -- the role of the Catholic Church in its worldwide crusade against Russian communism. H.G. Wells seriously questioned the possibilities of bombing the Vatican. So complete was its Crusade that it gave birth everywhere to brutal fascist leaders from Mexico to Croatia, and that's not to mention Franco, Mussolini and Hitler. Russia did not start WW11. Russia completed it and, accompanied by the allies, lost some 47? million nationals putting down what the fascist papacy had begun.

One of the few people who knew perfectly well what the Papacy had done was Joseph McCabe, who left the clerical ranks and has written to expose the Chruch for the rest of his life.

Katyn, then, involving betwen , perhaps 12,000 to 18,000 of Poland's finest, is indefensible except in terms of a rather sick Russian leader. Nevertheless, when one looks at the stance of the Polish Roman Catholic Chruch respecting communists, one hardly needed to ask how they viewed Russia. In the meantime the greatest aggressor of the twentieth century was spurned by the same Catholic forces as Poland enjoyed. And that's why there is no analysis of Poland's righteous political stance with respect to either the Jews (whom they equally hated), the communists (whom their church universally demonised), and the Germans, who shared their religious beliefs entirely and who were the first aggressors on Polish sovereignty as well as Russian sovereignty.

The picture is nowhere simple. What might simplify it is, at the risk of being taken the wrong way, for the Poles to analyse who really governs their country. The Irish who have always failed to analyse their own historic predicament, lived the lie of neutrality while its church-led government ratlined the very monsters who began the war. One feels that while Ireland is ready to wake up to those who have continually pressed their buttons in the back-rooms of the Vatican, Poles are less prepared to analyse their recent threats on Russia!

It appears to me that the Catholic Church did not save anyone from Russian Communism; but the Russian Communists saved us from the fascists who began and sustained with the RCC's assistance the entire assault of WW11 and its continuing consequences!

Seamus Breathnach
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Seanus:
Polo - the mint with the hole, LOL


Grin, I just bought a roll of them mints today :)

southern:
crocodilian love?


What the heck is crocodilian love?

karmic_koala:
А каханне беларусау да палякау лічыцца да пытання "Do Russians love the Poles" цi не?


That is very artistic, Karmic Koala, does it also add something?

But to refrain to the question: I think if a Polish guy meets a hot blonde Russian female with big boobs, I think there will be some love there, yes. Or if a Russian man meets a hot blonde Polish female, chances are that there will be some love too.

But in your case, southern, I don't know if there are any homosexual relations between Polish and Russian males.

>^..^<

M-G (but you could always try)
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Apr 12, 10, 22:49    #12
Good old Polos :)

I think Russians will likely love the Poles more as they are said to be less begrudging.
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MareGaea:
What the heck is crocodilian love?

beats me, but thanks for the visual! ;)
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karmic_koala:
А каханне беларусау да палякау лічыцца да пытання "Do Russians love the Poles" цi не?


"Kаханне беларусау" is a different nation for us than the Russians. As far as I know, we, the Polish, share some people with you, the most famous of them is Tadeusz Kościuszko (whom Cathrine II called "monster"), isn't he? Jerzy Gedroyc was born in Mińsk, formerly known as Mińsk Litewski. Melchior Wańkowicz wrote a lot about his Belorussian heritage. I think Czesław Niemen was born in Belarus. Adam Mickiewicz used to describe himself as "Litwin", but at that time it meant an inhabitant of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, therefore either Lithuanian or Belorussian by modern stndards.
karmic_koala  Apr 13, 10, 00:06    #15
Ziemowit:
Melchior Wańkowicz wrote a lot about his Belorussian heritage. I think Czesław Niemen was born in Belarus. Adam Mickiewicz used to describe himself as "Litwin", but at that time it meant an inhabitant of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, therefore either Lithuanian or Belorussian by modern stndards.


Yep, that's true! And also Franciszek Skoryna from Wielkie Księstwo Litewskie!
I miss my visits to Warszawa back in ninety's! I am Belarussian with Polish/Lithuanian roots.
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southern:
It seems so

Remember that just before the partitions of Poland, Poland was in an "alliance" with Russia. We could say that it was one of Russia's great mistakes to accept the partitioning of Poland. As if Russia would been pro-Polish towards Prussia or Austria history would been VERY different I say.
from Russia  Apr 13, 10, 21:26    #17
It is very interesting title of this topic. Of course, Russians love the Poles more than Poles love Russians. And in one topic here I read "I wondered that Russians now other than before".
No, I must to tell you (I can do it, i am 52 old woman), Russians loves Poles always and before even better. There is difference between people and state systems (although state system made by people too).
But really in Soviet union people loved Poles too much. People couldn't go abroad, just sometimes to Germany, Bulgaria, Poland and other socialist countries. From all socialist countries better women were in Poland-more beautiful, elegant, with charm.
My mother after travel trip to Germany and Poland too much told about Polish women.
Polish culture was so closer to us.
Anna German, Stanislav Mikulskii, Beata Tishkevich, Marilya Rodovich, Anjey Vaida.
CZERWONE GITARY with their «Nie mow nic» !!!
"Four tankmen and dog"-every year Russian TV showed this film and every year we with big interest saw this film.
Parfum "Byt mozet". We could spent too much time at shop for waiting this parfum.
it was dream for soviet woman to get this parfum.
Even on Russian TV during long time we could see very interesting show "Kabachok 13 ctuliev" or "Bar of 13 chears", where artists played by Polish names and about polish life...
And therefore strange, very unpleasant to listen bad words about Russian people.
Soviet system-russian people lived worse than people of socialist countries, Soviet syctem didn't take care even own sitizens.
Now -yes, more opened and democratic Goverment and liders of Russia but anyhow people really with Poland espesialy old generation...
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from Russia:
My mother after travel trip to Germany and Poland too much told about Polish women.


This is not a fair comparison.
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from Russia:
It is very interesting title of this topic. Of course, Russians love the Poles more than Poles love Russians. And in one topic here I read "I wondered that Russians now other than before".
No, I must to tell you (I can do it, i am 52 old woman), Russians loves Poles always and before even better. There is difference between people and state systems (although state system made by people too).
But really in Soviet union people loved Poles too much. People couldn't go abroad, just sometimes to Germany, Bulgaria, Poland and other socialist countries. From all socialist countries better women were in Poland-more beautiful, elegant, with charm.
My mother after travel trip to Germany and Poland too much told about Polish women.
Polish culture was so closer to us.
Anna German, Stanislav Mikulskii, Beata Tishkevich, Marilya Rodovich, Anjey Vaida.
CZERWONE GITARY with their «Nie mow nic» !!!
"Four tankmen and dog"-every year Russian TV showed this film and every year we with big interest saw this film.
Parfum "Byt mozet". We could spent too much time at shop for waiting this parfum.
it was dream for soviet woman to get this parfum.
Even on Russian TV during long time we could see very interesting show "Kabachok 13 ctuliev" or "Bar of 13 chears", where artists played by Polish names and about polish life...
And therefore strange, very unpleasant to listen bad words about Russian people.
Soviet system-russian people lived worse than people of socialist countries, Soviet syctem didn't take care even own sitizens.
Now -yes, more opened and democratic Goverment and liders of Russia but anyhow people really with Poland espesialy old generation...


That's a very interesting post - I had a lot of pleasure reading it. There is certainly
a hope for better realtions between Poland and Russia today and we would be fools
if we didn't take this opportunity to improve them!
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from Russia:
Parfum "Byt mozet". We could spent too much time at shop for waiting this parfum.
it was dream for soviet woman to get this parfum.


Where can I get some?(can you imagine such a seduction weapon?)
from Russia  Apr 13, 10, 21:43    #21
southern:
from Russia:
My mother after travel trip to Germany and Poland too much told about Polish women.

This is not a fair comparison.

Why? Do you want to speak that german women are better than polish? german women (sorry very much) very often like a men...
Sorry...
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from Russia:
Why? Do you want to speak that german women are better than polish? german women (sorry very much) very often like a men...
Sorry...


No,just that many women would prove more beautiful compared to german.I mean polish can appear like stunners if you have been in Germany for a while.More fair would be to compare polish to czech,russian,ukrainian etc.
from Russia  Apr 13, 10, 21:52    #23
southern:
from Russia:
Parfum "Byt mozet". We could spent too much time at shop for waiting this parfum.
it was dream for soviet woman to get this parfum.

Where can I get some?(can you imagine such a seduction weapon?)

You can see-
://vvv.1000dosok.ru/?n=1269938
from Russia  Apr 13, 10, 22:00    #24
southern:
from Russia:
Why? Do you want to speak that german women are better than polish? german women (sorry very much) very often like a men...
Sorry...

No,just that many women would prove more beautiful compared to german.I mean polish can appear like stunners if you have been in Germany for a while.More fair would be to compare polish to czech,russian,ukrainian etc.

Yes, of course, i have been in germany. but i think you are young man.
Yes, many Slav women, not just polish women now are so beatiful.
But before it was another time.
We couldn't buy nice dresses, for example very long time I made dresses for myself and my oldest daughter myself. Models of dresses, caps, scatfs, ets.-we didn't know too much about it. We couldn't wear dresses with elegant and charm like polish women.
Now-yes, there are lot of elegant and buitiful women, they can buy any dress, parfum, etc...
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from Russia:
Now-yes, there are lot of elegant and buitiful women, they can buy any dress, parfum, etc...

and SU was trying to compete with a civilised world?
tanks, guns and more stuff like that, thats what your elite were trying to achieve, ordinary people had no life, just as us under soviet occupation
from Russia  Apr 13, 10, 22:23    #26
TIT:
from Russia:
Now-yes, there are lot of elegant and buitiful women, they can buy any dress, parfum, etc...
and SU was trying to compete with a civilised world?
tanks, guns and more stuff like that, thats what your elite were trying to achieve, ordinary people had no life, just as us under soviet occupation

Yes, you are right and I again repeit that russian people lived worse than people in other socialist countries. We haven't food in shops, dresses, salary were small.
You think it was badly just for your parents? no, i am sure, your parents lived better than my parents.
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where is the spirit of Russians then? accept this?, reason for this in my opinion is - YOU, sorry to say this, you dont know and never knew what democracy is, and your fcuking goverment was trying leveling us down to your level.
There is something wrong with Russia now, plenty of ordinary people drives rusty ladas and some of high rank drive high-end cars.
from Russia  Apr 13, 10, 22:51    #28
But you fogot that now Russia live very often better than Poland. And not just thiefs, but normal businesspeople, Russia has so many new cars (although yes, there are a lot of old cars too).
But i didn't speak anything wrong about Polish people and Polish President.
Why did you tell wrong about Russian Goverment. It is our right-to decide something about our Goverment, not your decision.For me my goverment now is OK because i knew worse.
You go to new election, please, and choose new polish president, please...
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from Russia:
from Russia

I would choose to be an independent and skint for all people than be a poor slave and have rich oligarhy
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I think you are jealous of Putin TIT.Wouldn't you like a real president?

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