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SEE DANGER AHEAD FOR THE KAISER IN POUND. July 24, 1902


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 Jul 6, 10, 20:43    #1
Court Chamberlain von Morawski, a Polish landed magnate, has appealed to Emperor William not to visit Posen during the army manoeuvres to be held in September, as his Majesty had planned to do.

Interesting that the German Kaiser was too scared to enter Poznan.

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9B05E4DF1030E733A257 57C2A9619C946397D6CF

Published: July 24, 1902


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 Jul 7, 10, 00:19    #2
David_18:
Interesting that the German Kaiser was too scared to enter Poznan.

One shouldn't feck with the Poles :D
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 Jul 7, 10, 00:30    #3
Palatable :-)
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 Jul 7, 10, 00:32    #4
David_18:
the German Kaiser was too scared to enter Poznan.


would it not have been Posen...a German city...up till 1945..?
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 Jul 7, 10, 00:46    #5
wildrover:
would it not have been Posen...a German city...up till 1945..?

Officially yes, lol
But they knew in their heart that it wasn't Berlin hehe
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 Jul 7, 10, 00:48    #6
Occupied by Germany, yes. Hardly German though.
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 Jul 7, 10, 00:51    #7
Zed:
Occupied by Germany,


When....and what country was it part of before the occupation...?

I thought it had always been part of Germany untill 1945...?
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 Jul 7, 10, 01:05    #8
wildrover:
I thought it had always been part of Germany untill 1945...?

no, it has always been a polish city until the partitions and then WW2 but otherwise it's ethnically Polish
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 Jul 7, 10, 01:46    #9
I just read up on the history of Poznan...jeez , it changed hands so many times in its history...

but yes..originally Polish...
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 Jul 7, 10, 01:50    #10
wildrover:
I just read up on the history of Poznan...jeez , it changed hands so many times in its history...


You can still see the lingering Prussian mentality here, things just work and the job gets done!
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 Jul 7, 10, 02:01    #11
It must be a very strange experiance for Poles from other areas that visit there...?
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Edited by: Sokrates  Jul 7, 10, 05:32    #12
wildrover:
would it not have been Posen...a German city...up till 1945..?

Given that its one of the oldest most powerfull polish cities hardly, also Poznań returned to Poland between 1920-39.
wildrover:
I just read up on the history of Poznan...jeez , it changed hands so many times in its history...

Many times? It was Polish untill the partitions (Something like 800 years) then Germans invaded it, it was in Prussia for 123 years, returned to Poland for 19 years, again German for 5 years and then returned to Poland for 65 years.

So it was a polish city for 865 years out of its 1000 years old existance and Germans invaded it twice so its hardly "a lot of times" most of Poznań is/was also developed by Poles, even under Prussia since it was next to Lwów, Kraków and Warsaw one of the hubs of polish culture.

The city has a couple of dozen of German buildings and thats is, it pisses me off to no end when people claim Germans developed Poznań or made it what it is today when its a 100% Polish city and 100% Polish achievement.


delphiandomine:
You can still see the lingering Prussian mentality here, things just work and the job gets done!

Thats not "Prussian mentality" Poznań was one of the most developed urban hubs of Poland and unlike other cities wars rarely disrupted its social structure, no wonder local society has its sh*t together, it has nothing to do with Prussia or "Prussian mentality" though.
alexw68  Jul 7, 10, 08:11    #13
delphiandomine:
You can still see the lingering Prussian mentality here, things just work and the job gets done!

You've not been on a tour of the urzędy, evidently :)

But you're right, in comparison to elsewhere, stuff happens a lot more smoothly...

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 Jul 7, 10, 10:52    #14
alexw68:
You've not been on a tour of the urzędy, evidently :)


Ah, come on, someone even speaks English in the Foreigners Office (and will use it!) these days!

Even my local post office is strangely efficient...



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