Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland?

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Aug 24, 11, 20:50 #1

Shouldn't we take example in how Jews commemorate their victims? Shouldn't we make young generations remember those events, just like Jews do?
A nation which forgets its history is doomed to go through it again.
The genocide of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland perpetrated by Ukrainian nationalists bears striking resemblance to Holocaust in that its goal was to physically exterminate whole population including women and children. You may think that the Ukrainians "just" wanted to make Poles leave their villages, where they lived since middle ages - that was unfortunately not the case since UPA officers openly asked Poles to stay and even gave them "guarantees" on paper reassuring them that no harm will be done.
If you know Polish - take a look at this documentary about the Massacre of Wola Ostrowiecka:
http://www.tvp.pl/historia/rocznice-i-wydarzenia/wolyn-1943/wideo/zapo mniane-zbrodnie-na-wolyniu/2245364
Towards the end of that documentary a guy recalls how his grandfather was murdered because he couldn't believe that Ukrainians could be murdering Poles for no reason (other than that they were Poles), so he went to talk with them and obviously - was murdered.

The other issue is: how should Poland honour the memory of those Ukrainians who didn't join UPA but instead saved Poles by hiding them from their countrymen? Should Poland also take example from the Jewish "Righteous among the Nations" initiative?

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09 ♂	Aug 24, 11, 20:54 #2
Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland? sure - go and pave the way :) Shouldn't we take example in how Jews commemorate their victims? Shouldn't we make young generations remember those events, just like Jews do? to achieve what - what do you think Jews are achieving judging from the devastation their youth leave behind in Polish hotels

plgrl	Aug 24, 11, 21:07 #3
I think that those kind of initiative would be read in wrong way by locals, as a kind of provocation therefore cause harm, certaintly not bring peace. But you're right that young Poles aren't taught about that on history lessons.

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Aug 24, 11, 21:14 #4

I think that those kind of initiative would be read in wrong way by locals, as a kind of provocation therefore cause harm, certaintly not bring peace.
But you're right that young Poles aren't taught about that on history lessons.

I am not sure such things should be taught in school, neither Nazi crimes should be taught in school - there is far too much history in schools actually while we live in present and not the past

postinhabitant	Nov 6, 11, 01:15 #5
Stop discussing and comemorating the past will you all,,,Jesus get over it! The sooner you stop moaning and groaning about what happened the sooner it will be unlikely to happen again. I think its a real shame on your country how your unale to forgive, forget and move on

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Nov 6, 11, 21:40 #6
postinhabitant: Stop discussing and comemorating the past will you all,,,Jesus get over it! The sooner you stop moaning and groaning about what happened the sooner it will be unlikely to happen again. I think its a real shame on your country how your unale to forgive, forget and move on there is no logic behind your statment.

peterwegThreads: 35 Posts: 1,995 Joined: Feb 16, 07 ♂	Nov 7, 11, 10:01 #7
Wasn't the total exterminated in the order of 600,000 over a period of six weeks? My father was born in the area but was living much further south and was 'lucky' to have been deported to Archangel by 1942.

PalivecThreads: - Posts: 333 Joined: Apr 22, 11 ♂	Nov 7, 11, 11:32 #8
MyMom: The genocide of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland perpetrated by Ukrainian nationalists bears striking resemblance to Holocaust in that its goal was to physically exterminate whole population including women and children. Was it based on the ideology of racial superiority, with the goal to annihilate the entire race, and not only the entire race but also to destroy the culture?

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