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SokratesThreads: 19
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Joined: Jan 19, 09 ♂ [Suspended] 		 Jan 9, 11, 20:18    #31
jonni:
You'd make a good one. Interesting if anyone is rattling round Germany using a title from Slask.

Given that the entire family was from the polish Piast dynasty i doubt it.
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Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂ 		 Jan 9, 11, 20:20    #32
jonni:
Interesting if anyone is rattling round Germany using a title from Slask.


I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised. Germans produced surplus of titles !
jonniThreads: 26
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Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂ 		Edited by: jonni  Jan 9, 11, 20:26    #33
Sokrates:

Given that the entire family was from the polish Piast dynasty i doubt it.

Once again you've got the wrong end of the stick. Never mind though, we're all used to it.
Unless you think all the partition era palaces in Slask were built by the Piasts.
Now run along and stop trolling, before you embarass yourself further.
MartAnthonyThreads: 4
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Joined: Aug 15, 09 ♂ 		 Jan 9, 11, 23:41    #34
z_darius:
MartAnthony:
Is Silesia still under occupation ?
Not any more than all of Canadian territories are.


Good point it is..but it is independed from France and England for the most part. And the true natives are gaining ground slowly.
POLENGGGsThreads: 5
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Joined: Apr 26, 10 ♂ 		 Jan 18, 11, 13:48    #35
whom these 'true' natives might be ?
You mean bastards who claim either German/Polish nationality whichever suits them better ?
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jonni:
(a distinct group, by the way, with a foot in two countries)

3 countries. no?
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Joined: Apr 10, 10 ♂ 		 Jan 20, 11, 06:30    #37
MartAnthony:
Is Silesia still under occupation ?


Geographically speaking where is Silesia?
Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34
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Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂ 		 Jan 20, 11, 23:54    #38
Chicago Pollock:
Geographically speaking where is Silesia?


Red field is Silesia during Prussian reign
Red field is Silesia during Prussian reign
During some time in the middle ages
During some time in the middle ages
MartAnthonyThreads: 4
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Joined: Aug 15, 09 ♂ 		 Mar 4, 11, 01:17    #39
A new pic

Silesia
Marek11111Threads: 49
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Joined: Aug 6, 09  Pictures: 1 ♂ 		 Mar 4, 11, 01:37    #40
I just like to know where all the native Silesians come from? Would be from a east Poland to the ziemie odzuskane
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Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂ 		 Mar 4, 11, 01:44    #41
Hardcore stuff, especially batman cap.
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I'm wondering if anyone can tell me more about Silesia because both of my great grandparents came from that region. As far as I know Silesia was divided into Eastern and Western regions. On the Ellis Island documents concerning my great grandparents Silesia is spelled Galicia. I am still trying to accertain the distinct location of where my great grandfather comes from. If I'm right then he came from the "western" Silesia in which his family was from the town of Kobyle which I believe is Southern Poland. Genealogy research has become a must for me as I want to know more about my heritage.
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amendlik:
On the Ellis Island documents concerning my great grandparents Silesia is spelled Galicia.

Galicia is something different than Silesia. Galicia was part of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, whereas Silesia was divided into these two countries in 1741 when Prussia conquered on Austria a major part of the Silesian territory including the capital Breslau/Wrocław. Thus, until the year 1918 we had the Prussian Silesia as well as the Austrian Silesia, or the region of Opava, which region was administratively separate from the land of Moravia. On top of this we had the Duchy of Cieszyn which was a separate administrative unit within Austria; it was a Silesian duchy, however, not to be confounded with the neighbouring Galicia.

The name of Galicia appeared after the first partition of Poland in 1772 when the Austrian called the grabbed territory by the name "Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria". Both names are latinized versions of Ruthenian [we now say: Ukrainian] names: Halichina and Vlodimiria. In the beginning the Austrians used to exploit the acquired territory enormously which made the Polish and Ruthenian populations inhabiting the kingdom nickname it as "Kingdom of Golicja i Głodomeria" which would translate into English as "The Kingdom of the Naked and the Hungry. Later on, the region was given a broad autonomy within the Habsburg Empire and became one where neither Polishness were persecuted nor the Polish language was eradicated from public use.
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What Germany doing in Silesia, Poland?

following comments in some public media

Silesia's German ties return to haunt Polish politics

DW / Inside Europe | 10.04.2011 | 00:05
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,6496903,00.html
Poland's nationalist opposition leader Jaroslaw Kaczynski has sparked controversy after accusing the Silesian ethnic minority living in the south of the country of covertly harboring pro-German sentiments.

The comments were made following the start of a national census in which the inhabitants of the ethnically mixed province of Silesia are for the first time able to state their nationality as Silesian. The opposition leader is the twin brother of the late president Lech Kaczynski who had often raised the spectre of German domination. From Warsaw Rafal Kiepuszewski has the details.

Germany Historical Region Silesia



Silesian Separatist Movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesian_Separatist_Movement
Silesian Separatist Movement refers to Union of Upper Silesians (until 1924, operating in Germany), which wanted independence for Silesia, Silesian People's Party (until 1938 operating in Austria-Hungary), which wanted the independence of Austrian Silesia and whole Silesia and Association of Defense of Upper Silesians (pl:Związek Obrony Górnoślązaków) which wanted the granting of minority rights for Silesians in Poland.
MartAnthonyThreads: 4
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Joined: Aug 15, 09 ♂ 		 Apr 27, 11, 09:09    #45
Such a nice little tune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FijzjvhxWw&feature=related
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Joined: Apr 6, 09  Pictures: 1 ♂ 		 Apr 27, 11, 09:32    #46
MartAnthony:
Such a nice little tune.


such a nice little revisionistic tune
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Joined: Aug 15, 09 ♂ 		 Apr 30, 11, 09:10    #47
Interesting page

http://polandpoland.com/germany_poland_border.html
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Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂ 		 Apr 30, 11, 09:37    #48
MartAnthony:
Interesting page

very
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/oder.htm
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Apr 30, 11, 15:56    #49
There's a lot of internet ping-pong about Silesian separatism but, frankly speaking, I've seen no rallies here in over 6.5 years. It's enough for some people to use the term 'gorol' and leave it at that. I'm glad that the British took a stand against the Russians as the Russians wanted to take control of the coal fields in the immediate aftermath of WWII.

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