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TorqThreads: 65
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One of the Lwów Region Council deputees, Rostysław Nowożenec, has proposed
to name the stadium in Lwów, which is being built for the Euro 2012, Stepan
Bandera Stadium.

If this goes through and Ukrainians name the stadium in Lwów after this murdering
animal, then a decisive diplomatic and economic actions should be taken. Polish companies
should strongly consider withdrawing from Ukraine and our government should stop turning
a blind eye on the 250-300 thousand Ukrainians working illegaly in Poland. We have
shown goodwill and benevolence for a long time and we are getting constant insults
in return (like giving this psychopat murderer Bandera the title of Hero of Ukraine).
This will end one day if fascist elements in Ukraine are not controlled by their government.

Hopefully this cheap, nazi provocation will end in a trash bin and the sickf*ucks
like the ones below...

SS Galizien and UPA Retards
SS Galizien and UPA nazi veterans celebrating together

...and other nazi retards will not have their "heroes" glorified.

http://sport.onet.pl/pilka-nozna/euro-2012/media-o-euro-2012-skandalic zny-pomysl,1,3283850,wiadomosc.html

P.S. The way things are going now, I would even accept joint action with Russia
against the Fascism in Ukraine. We have fought fascists together before, we can
fight fascism again. We can not allow the fascist-nazi beast to raise its ugly head again.
TorqThreads: 65
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Can you imagine the reaction if Germans named one of their national stadiums
today, Adolf Hitler Stadium? There would be uproar all over Europe and the World.
Really, I hope Ukrainians will turn out to be smarter than that.
zetigrekThreads: 59
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My greatgrandmother was killed by UPA... Are here any Ukrainians to explain this?
TorqThreads: 65
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zetigrek:
My greatgrandmother was killed by UPA...


I am sorry to hear that, Zetigrek. I imagine how you must feel reading the news...

zetigrek:
Are here any Ukrainians to explain this?


Yes, we have a couple of non-Nazi Ukrainian members.

This is only a proposition so far, so hopefully the authorities will not approve that, but who
knows (Bandera received the title of the Hero of Ukraine after all, so maybe now he will
have a stadium named after him).
king polkakamonThreads: 1
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Joined: Dec 30, 09 ♂ 		 Jun 17, 10, 19:42    #5
Can you imagine a match between Polska and Ukraina in Stepan Bandera stadium?Polish will bring the eagles and their cavalry.
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zetigrek:
Are here any Ukrainians to explain this?


There used to be some... they said it was all Russians. :) Yet "Bandera was a nice guy who fought our common enemy - Russians". :)
Marek11111Threads: 49
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Joined: Aug 6, 09  Pictures: 1 ♂ 		 Jun 17, 10, 19:48    #7
Someone said that history books are written by winners.
Ukraine got its independence so they will write in book of their history what they want a half truths
“UPA was fighting for independence”- written
“by killing unarmed Poles living in Ukraine” not written

“AK during war murdered Ukrainian civilians ” – written
“ in response to UPA murder of Polish civilians” – not written

They can do whatever they want it’s their country, Poland and Poles need to worry about their problems not internal politics of other nations.
king polkakamonThreads: 1
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Actually Banera is worshiped in Ukraine except the eastern part and Crimea.

Bandera
1jolaThreads: 33
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Let them do it. No Polish player will ever play on this pitch ,and if they do, they will be lynched back home.

Let these cvnts name this stadium Bandera Stadium. They will never join the EU. We, the Poles, will make sure of that. So help us God.
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I think (or hope, rather) that the new administration will not allow that. The first thing Yanuk did was reverse the controversial "hero of Ukraine" status awarded to Bandera by Ush'enko. Also, these kind of sentiments ("Long live Ukraine without Jews, Poles and Germans; Poles behind the river San, Germans to Berlin, and Jews to the gallows") are persistent only among svidomye zapadenskie elements ;) The rest of Ukraine is much more reasonable.
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Fascism has no future. It will be fought ruthlessly if necessary.

when you will fight United States as it fascist state
TorqThreads: 65
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Marek11111:
when you will fight United States as it fascist state


You don't know much about the United States, do you? Remember, Marek, not
everything that you read in "Przegląd Socjalistyczny" is true.

Besides, this thread is not about the United States, so don't drag it off-topic.
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Yet again Ukrainians prove they have self preservation instincts of a gerbil in an oven.
zetigrek:
Are here any Ukrainians to explain this?

We had a fashist twat named Nathan, he claimed Russians did it and Ukraine is strong and doesnt need anyone anyway.
Marek11111:
Ukraine got its independence so they will write in book of their history what they want a half truths

Ukraine's independence is by no means certain in the immidiate future, antagonizing the closest neighbour especially when said neigbhour repeatedly makes friendly overtures is beyond stupid.
Marek11111:
Poland and Poles need to worry about their problems not internal politics of other nations.

Every country needs to worry about internal politics of its neighbours, only an idiot can't see why.

Naming it after Bandera is a receipe for an instant and complete collapse of Ukrainian-Polish relations as well as no Euro 2012 since Poles would never play there, hope Ukrainians are smarter than this.
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Torq:
ne of the Lwów Region Council deputees, Rostysław Nowożenec, has proposed
to name the stadium in Lwów, which is being built for the Euro 2012, Stepan
Bandera Stadium.

let's them name it whatever they want it can always be changed after Poland regain Lwów!
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Marek11111:
when you will fight United States as it fascist state

When you learn English, please join us, dink.
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Wiedzmin_fan:
The first thing Yanuk did was reverse the controversial "hero of Ukraine" status awarded to Bandera by Ush'enko


That's good to mention. However I don't see Janek doing any good to Ukraine.
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Torq:
However they have to realize that, at the moment, their GDP is about $6400 per capita.


You will be surprised if you look at the GDP breakdown by the region. The western regions where all the rabid nationalists live are all **** poor and don't produce anything. The Central and Eastern Ukraine have to bail them out all the time.


Sasha:
However I don't see Janek doing any good to Ukraine.


You think Yul'ka would have been better? I doubt it.
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More about it in english:
http://www.thenews.pl/sport/artykul133726_euro-2012-matches-to-be-play ed-at-bandera-stadium.html
Marek11111Threads: 49
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Every country needs to worry about internal politics of its neighbours, only an idiot can't see why.

Not to influence it but observe it and take necessary steps just in case
TorqThreads: 65
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Marek11111:
really Torq so what you saying that united states is democracy?


Yes, basically that's what I'm saying.
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It is naive to belive that ukrainians change. They are still primitive and cruel barbarian nation in Europe. We regret that we have EURO 2012 with ukraina
Marek11111Threads: 49
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Marek11111:
really Torq so what you saying that united states is democracy?

Yes, basically that's what I'm saying.

maybe from far away not from inside
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Marek11111:
really Torq so what you saying that united states is democracy?

Whats the topic? Its Ukraine can you please not derail it? Create a thread of your own about USA.

Also it doesnt look like that big of a deal, its just one councilman acting ape.
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Wiedzmin_fan:
You think Yul'ka would have been better?


I don't. There's small choice in rotten apples. :)
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Rostislav Novozhenets, a councillor in the Lviv region, said that the working name of the stadium, “Lemberg” (Lviv in German), is causing outrage among the city’s residents, and proposed to change the name to one which Lviv’s inhabitants “can be proud.”

Hmmm....so it's either "Lemberg" or "Bandera"? Ahem...
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Bratwurst Boy:
Hmmm....so it's either "Lemberg" or "Bandera"? Ahem...

What dont they call it Lviw Stadium? Or just dig up some real hero or noteworthy figure, i understand they dont have that many but they could find someone if they dig deep.
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Wiedzmin_fan:
You will be surprised if you look at the GDP breakdown by the region. The western regions where all the rabid nationalists live are all **** poor and don't produce anything.


So, what are you saying? If overally Ukraine has GDP per capita equal to Namibia's
then in the Western Regions it's even lower than that? Jaysus...
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Torq:
So, what are you saying? If overally Ukraine has GDP per capita equal to Namibia's
then in the Western Regions it's even lower than that? Jaysus...

Western Ukraine = Eastern Poland, except much poorer.
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Sokrates:
Western Ukraine = Eastern Poland, except much poorer.


I never knew it's THAT poor. $6400 per capita sounds bad enough, but if the Western
regions are even poorer than that, then it would mean that we have a piece of black
Africa in Europe, bordering Poland. Unbelievable.

They should co-operate closely with their neighbours if they want to exit Africa
and enter Europe one day, instead of drifiting towards fascist, nazi paranoia.
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Torq:
So, what are you saying? If overally Ukraine has GDP per capita equal to Namibia's
then in the Western Regions it's even lower than that? Jaysus...

Why are you being an ass*hole? Look at the thread heading.

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