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Unusual soldier (The bear - named Voytek)


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isthatuThreads: 4
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Joined: Jun 8, 07 ♂ 		Edited by: isthatu  Jan 25, 08, 17:28    #1
Oddly enough,after having a statue for some time in Edinburgh Zoo, woitek the bear is getting a bit of publicity. Images of a big bad bear biffing the boshe spring to mind.....

A campaign has been launched to build a permanent memorial to a bear which spent much of its life in Scotland - after fighting in World War II.

The bear - named Voytek - was adopted in the Middle East by Polish troops in 1943, becoming much more than a mascot.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/south_of_scotland/7208505. stm


ps,adminI thought cutting and pasting from other sources was verboten? Please,if you are going to mess with peoples posts,please pop a wee note or something underneath,ta.
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A wonderful story.
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"He liked a cigarette, he liked a bottle of beer - he drank a bottle of beer like any man."

lol :)
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Brilliant.
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Przemas wrote:
"He liked a cigarette, he liked a bottle of beer - he drank a bottle of beer like any man."

Yep,thats the bit I highlighted on another forum :) Brill! :)
ps,anyone in the UK who can get UKTV history,keep an eye out for "Gladiators of WW2,Free Polish Forces" his story is told in that doc'.
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I’d love to stroll into a local pub for a pint with a buddy like Wojtek. hehe
AvJoeUK  Jan 25, 08, 18:03    #7
I read this story earlier, truely excellent.
polishgirltx  Jan 25, 08, 18:08    #8
great story... he was easy to get along with...
how cute :D
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Ok,just come across this link on the other forum,enjoy:)

vbservices.co.uk/baczor/html/wojtek.html
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Przemas wrote:
"He liked a cigarette, he liked a bottle of beer - he drank a bottle of beer like any man."


Only the Polish would think that a bear just wanted a cig...

:]


This story is awesome. I want to buy the book. As soon as it hits the shelves let me know. :]
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Joined: Jul 25, 07 ♂ 		 Jan 25, 08, 22:16    #11
It's a shame he's not around any more - bears just don't live long enough.
It would have been nice to have had him on the forum.
Might have been a bit too old-school for all this modern internet mullarkey.
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osiol wrote:
It's a shame he's not around any more - bears just don't live long enough.


He's like a Polish Balto...but a bear and not a dog...

:]
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They put him in a zoo in Scotland.
If he had to go to Scotland, they should have put him in a pub.
I think he'd have fitted in a bit better.
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osiol wrote:
They put him in a zoo in Scotland.
If he had to go to Scotland, they should have put him in a pub.
I think he'd have fitted in a bit better.


Probably lived longer too.

Anyway, I'm off to the movies everyone. Dobranoc Poles, cheerio Brits, and go to hell trolls.

:]
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El Gato wrote:
go to hell trolls

If you're unlucky I'll come back.
Apparently it's cold there, like the hearts of both British and Polish people!
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osiol wrote:
Apparently it's cold there, like the hearts of both British and Polish people!


Someone's gotta start a new trend, right?

Dobranoc osiol :]
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osiol wrote:
Apparently it's cold there, like the hearts of both British and Polish people!


The cold hearts will hopefully stop the "global warming". We're freezing in Chicago.
Wyspianska  Jan 26, 08, 02:25    #18
osiol wrote:
Apparently it's cold there, like the hearts of both British and Polish people!

I think that my heart is pretty warm right now : )
Now ask some British :P
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A pal of my father served with Wojtek all the way from Iran to demob in Scotland. he has very vivid memories of Wojtek and his daily bath in the river while in Iran. As a child I always thought that it was just a barrack room story........
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It's a great story, just goes to show why the Poles had a panache and elan that other Allied troops did not.
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Here is a link to where Voytek went after the war, pretty interesting.

Voytek died in December 1963. Since then his story has been drifting through the pages of historic lore like a wandering bear, heard but unconfirmed. Despite extensive documentation, photographs and even a few sculptures, most people have never heard of Voytek, or regard him as a myth. But Scottish campaigner Aileen Orr, along with others, wants to change that by erecting a memorial. As she told the BBC: "The story is totally amazing."

://blog.washingtonpost.com/offbeat/2008/01/voytek_the_soldier_bear _of_pol_1
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Wojtek the soldier bear

iranchamber.com/podium/history/050807_iranian_soldier_bear.php

One of the coolest stories I ever read.
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Campaigners seeking a memorial to a bear which fought in World War II say Hollywood producers want to turn his story into a feature film.


Hollywood hope for Soldier Bear. The question is, who'll play the title role... ;)
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Robin williams...have you seen his hands?!!!
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isthatu wrote:
Robin williams...have you seen his hands?!!!


Haha. You may have it spot on there!

Can anyone tell me the justification of having a memorial at Holyrood? I don't see why it should be there.
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As "justifiable" as having Mandela outside westminster I suppose,though Im sure I remember a statue of voytek at Edinburgh Zoo when I was a nipper....
One idea,he lived in the borders for a while,how about having a big statue at one of the border crossings? Better than an icecream van and a chubby Piper ;)?
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He has a memorial at the Zoo but I am not truly sure what it is. Yes I think if anywhere in Edinburgh, the Zoo would be ideal. He was in Hutton in the borders so there would be another good place for a memorial.

I prefer the idea of a big bear at the border rather than a piper :)
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The thing that's sad about this story, is that the bear died all alone. Obviously their was no better solution than the zoo. But it still sucks.
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I want a pet bear now...
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isthatu wrote:
anyone in the UK who can get UKTV history,keep an eye out for "Gladiators of WW2,Free Polish Forces"


For anyone who might be intrested, the DVD "Gladiators of WW2, Free Polish Forces" is available to purchase.
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