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Xenohorde1988Threads: 1
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Joined: Aug 30, 10 ♂ 		 Nov 28, 10, 02:14    #1
does anyone know if there were Viking settlements near the Gdansk area?
ShawnHThreads: 9
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Joined: Jul 2, 09 ♂ 		 Nov 28, 10, 02:20    #2
I was at a little settlement south of Mikolajki that might have had a connection to the Norse peoples. They had some interesting wood carvings and upside down trees.
ShawnHThreads: 9
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Galindia was the name of the place...

Priests travelling with the Vikings from Scandinavia in the 9th and 10th centuries first introduced Christianity to the Baltic tribes populating the western and southern parts of present day Latvia. In the 10th and 11th centuries, Orthodox teachings, via Old Russian, were spread to the inhabitants living in the eastern and central parts. No written legacies of the languages spoken in this area during this period have been found, though archeologists speculate about the possibility that some type of runic writing system borrowed from the Scandinavians may have been used. Borrowed words in use today, which reflect this early Old Russian influence on the Latvian language, include for example baznīca 'church', grāmata 'book', svece 'candle', svēts 'holy', and zvans 'bell'.


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ZedThreads: -
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Joined: May 25, 10 ♂ 		 Nov 28, 10, 05:28    #4
Galindia is in present day Poland. Old time Prussia territory. Nothing to do with Germany at that time.
AdamKadmonThreads: 38
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Joined: Apr 23, 10 ♂ 		 Nov 28, 10, 09:46    #5
Vikings in Pomerania?

Harald "Bluetooth" Gormsson:

- King of Denmark
- King of Norway
- died at Jomsborg (most probably nowadays Wolin) in 985/86

Vikings
gumishuThreads: 17
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Joined: Apr 6, 09  Pictures: 1 ♂ 		 Nov 28, 10, 11:59    #6
there are some indications it was Mieszko I who invited Vikings to Wolin - he badly wanted to take control of Pomorze especially Odra estuaries - Vikings could have also played a role in creating Polan's country and its expansion (at least as mercenaries but maybe in a similar scenarion as in Kievan Rus) - as far as I know Vikings never settled Slavic Pomorze in great numbers because of Pomarzanie resistence though the Danes tried to conquere at least western part of southern coast of Baltic and they were succesful for a time - I guess it was 11-12 th century - they also managed to conquer some lands in easter Baltics - at least the islands off the coast of Estonia
SokratesThreads: 19
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Xenohorde1988:
does anyone know if there were Viking settlements near the Gdansk area?

Nope, they invaded from Gotland untill Pomeranians invaded them back though.
gumishu:
Vikings could have also played a role in creating Polan's country and its expansion (at least as mercenaries but maybe in a similar scenarion as in Kievan Rus)

A tad less creative history, Prussians and polish tribes were warring with Vikings from Gotland, Adams map is that of political influence, not settlements, there might have been some small settlements but if they were archeology failed to uncover them thus far.
AdamKadmonThreads: 38
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Sokrates:
Prussians and polish tribes were warring with Vikings from Gotland


against East Frankish Empire (nowadays Germany) imposing Christianity on them. That's true, but rather not Polish tribes, which were nominally Christian at the time, but Pomeranian Slavic tribes resisting Christianity, just like some of Danes.
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AdamKadmon:

against East Frankish Empire (nowadays Germany) imposing Christianity on them.

As well.
AdamKadmon:
. That's true, but rather not Polish tribes, which were nominally Christian at the time,

Key word is when.
AdamKadmonThreads: 38
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Sokrates:
Key word is when.


At the time of Harald the Bluetooth, the East Frankish Empire became the Holy Roman Empire.
Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11
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I apologize!
AdamKadmonThreads: 38
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Bratwurst Boy:
I apologize!


Don't be so Holy.
TrevekThreads: 33
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Joined: May 21, 08 ♂ 		Edited by: Moderator  Nov 28, 10, 17:44    #13
Try this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jomsburg

Jomsborg (German: Jomsburg) was a semi-legendary Viking stronghold at the southern coast of the Baltic Sea (medieval Wendland, modern Pomerania), that existed between the 960s and 1043. Its inhabitants are known as Jomsvikings.
TrevekThreads: 33
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Try this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jomsburg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendish_Crusade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vineta
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegv%C3%ADsir
Mea_forever  Mar 26, 11, 02:22    #15
were vikings ever in poland
ShawnHThreads: 9
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Mea_forever:
were vikings ever in poland

Read the freaking thread and you will find out.
isthatu2Threads: 13
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Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂ 		 Mar 26, 11, 05:12    #17
A better question might be, where didnt the "vikings" get to......
Ive a question about the vikings though,just what the heck was a " sacred kettle"? My maternal family name translates as something like keeper of the sacred kettle from old Norse.....All sorts of cool images spring to mind,but I havent looked too far into it incase it turns out to be some posh name for Tea Lady ;)
SandmanThreads: 3
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A Thor's hammer made of amber in Wolin for export to Scandinavia (Nat. Musem, Szczecin)
Thor hammer
Goth stone graveyard in Odry, 60 km SW of Gdansk (2 cent. AD, well before Vikings)
Goth stone circle
Goths in Poland
Goth village reconstruction in north Poland
Goth village
Note: real Goths should not be confused with modern teens who wear black mascara and like to call themselves Azrael.
plk123Threads: 30
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ShawnH:
Read the freaking thread and you will find out.

you are asking for way too much.. wtf man? ;)

isthatu2:
Ive a question about the vikings though,just what the heck was a " sacred kettle"? My maternal family name translates as something like keeper of the sacred kettle from old Norse.....All sorts of cool images spring to mind,but I havent looked too far into it incase it turns out to be some posh name for Tea Lady ;)

find norse forums.. you won't get the real answer here.. well, you will but not sure how "real" it'll be...
DaisyThreads: 16
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isthatu2:
My maternal family name translates as something like keeper of the sacred kettle from old Norse.....All sorts of cool images spring to mind,but I havent looked too far into it incase it turns out to be some posh name for Tea Lady ;)

isn't the most important time of the working day, the tea break?
plk123Threads: 30
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Daisy:

isn't the most important time of the working day, the tea break?

here comes that brit hard work ethic.. nice... lol
isthatu2Threads: 13
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plk123:
here comes that brit hard work ethic

Nope,the Brit ethic is work to live,not live to work....no complaints for me. Why slog your guts out to make some bugger else a fortune? :)
plk123:
well, you will but not sure how "real" it'll be...

Well,its probably from Serbia origionally ;)
DaisyThreads: 16
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plk123:
here comes that brit hard work ethic.. nice... lol

it's called 'humour' we prefer to laugh at life, rather than moan about it....
Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34
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Sokrates:
map is that of political influence, not settlements

That is correct, I remember from my history lessons of the Danes having huge influence in Eastern Norway.


Mea_forever:
were vikings ever in poland

Certainly but they loved France and Britain a bit more
I am guessing some of the Viking rulers/kings recruited men from the area of Pommerania for future campaigns in western Europe. I recall reading it somewhere...


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